tp tk on dangerous turn

pleyya · #1 06-28-2005, 12:45 PM

MP1 TAG, MP2 sLPP and UTG very loose vpip around 90 + rather passive but quite capable of bluffing. I think MP1 might be looking to get back at me since i just stole a pot from him so i wasnt to worried about his flop raise but i would put him on overs or medium smallish pocketpair. However if he raised the turn it would probably be a clear fold.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, hero....

I am thinking either bet and fold to a raise or check and call one back. I was concerned about getting bluff raised by UTG. How often am i good here ?

deception5 · #2 06-28-2005, 01:13 PM

I don't think I would 3-bet this flop closing the action here. I would rather wait to the turn to protect as there's pretty no way to fold anyone for one (or even 2) more bets here.

Given the turn card I would check and fold if it's 2 back to me.

I would also reevaluate MP1 - not too many hands a tag would cold call with preflop here.

pleyya · #3 06-28-2005, 02:06 PM

I understand your point of not three betting here as im not folding anyone. The reason i did it was that most of the limpers were loose so i wanted them to pay to draw and i wanted to see if MP1 would cap wich would tell me im behind.

deception5 · #4 06-28-2005, 02:11 PM

I agree you may have a small edge here, but I think this might be one of those cases where it's better to forego a small edge now to exploit a larger one on the turn. A safe turn card will dramatically improve your hand.

pleyya · #5 06-28-2005, 02:16 PM

Assuming a blank hits the turn would you then bet out or c-r ? A check raise would make ppl pay but probably not fold since they are caught in the middle. And you could get three bet.