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Old 08-02-2005, 09:48 PM
greenage greenage is offline
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Default Loose call on loose table?

7 Card Stud High ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street - (6.20 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (5.60 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (11.60 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

River - (14.60 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___folds

Total pot: (16.60 BB)
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:04 PM
grb137 grb137 is offline
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Default Re: Loose call on loose table?

The reason you call weak pairs like this is to hope to get paid off when you hit. You *did* hit, and yet you didn't get maximum value because you failed to raise. You also didn't charge seat 4 the maximum to try to suck out on you.

You gotta raise/cap with trips on 4th...its just too unlikely that seat 4 has trip 5s since you see another 5 in seat 2s hand. At a .5/1 table, you can expect he'll probably chase you with his 5s and pay you off. Also, merely calling gave those 9s on seat 8 a cheap draw to catch another nine or catch a str8.
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