Any point in betting here?

[Brian]

Party 3/6, just sat down so no reads on any of the players. Dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in LP. MP open limps, I raise, BB and MP call. 3 to the Flop for 6sb.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me and I bet, only BB calls. 2 to the Turn for 8sb (4bb).

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB checks. Is there any reason to bet here? There are no more overcards that can come and not really any draws. The pot is pretty small anyways, and while I may very occasionally give a free card that beats me, I'd like to try to induce a bluff on the River if I am in fact ahead. Results later.

-Brian

[Bob T.]

With that flop, he would be correct in calling with QJ, JT, or QT on the flop. Some players also will always take one off on the flop with a small pocket pair. It comes down to whether or not you want to give them a free card now, versus how often you think that you will be checkraised on the turn. I think that I would bet the turn, and check the river if called, instead of checking the turn and hoping to induce a bluff on the river. Your approach could be better, because at least you get to see the river, and you might be the one that needs a free card.

[Brian]

Hi Bob,

Is being check-raised on the Turn necessarily a bad thing? Easy laydown right?

-Brian

[Bob T.]

You are right, and it cost the same as calling the river. I like betting more right now.

[kiddo]

What hands will he call with on turn that you can beat?
Not many!

What hands will he fold on turn when you bet that you cant beat?
Not many. (? a bit player dependent, your image?)

I would normally check turn.

[PocketPaul]

I see no point in betting here as there is little danger that a free card will cause you to be beaten and BB is very likely to hold an A or K.

Why would BB call on QT, JT or QT, surely he does not have the pot odds to make this call, even allowing for implied odds.

Paul

[lil']

I would prefer to bet more often than check because

A) If you are check-raised you have an easy laydown
B) If your opponent is lousy he will pay you off
C) You might give a free card that could beat you
D) If he has an A or K and calls the turn, he is probably not going to come to life and bet the river, meaning you get the showdown for only 1 BB

If you check and call a bet on the river, that costs 1 BB too, but betting the turn has more advantages and will probably cost the same amount.

[Joe Tall]

Vs. two opponents here, I would bet 100% of the time. Feel free to lay down to a check raise. You will always be surprised on what hands will call you down.

Peace,
JT

[Joe Tall]

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BB is very likely to hold an A or K.

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Why do you say this? Simply because he called the flop? Worse hands call all the time.

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Why would BB call on QT, JT or QT, surely he does not have the pot odds to make this call, even allowing for implied odds.

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95% of the players you will be playing aganist wouldn't understand what you meant by pot odds/implied odds. People who gamble, gamble.

Welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

[Your Mom]

Against normal players, I would bet the turn and check the river. If you are against someone real tricky who could try to move you off the winning hand (more likely if you are playing SH) then I'd just like to show it down, so I would check the turn and the call a river bet. I can see both sides of it. Oh and one more thing Brian, keep raising that KJs. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]