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Old 08-22-2005, 12:07 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

If a guy declares his hand incorrectly at showdown: he says he has a flush when he has a straight, and his hand is turned over afterwards, is his hand dead?

Just curious...
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:12 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

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If a guy declares his hand incorrectly at showdown: he says he has a flush when he has a straight, and his hand is turned over afterwards, is his hand dead?

Just curious...

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If the floor rules he intentionly over called his hand and an opponent throws his hand away he has a dead hand.

edit: He gets no benefit of the doubt when determining if it was intentional.
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Old 08-22-2005, 02:59 PM
budman budman is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

That is a good question.

I have called straight before when I actually had a flush. Cards speak so it is a lot of fun when my hand gets promoted and I take the pot. It always seems to make me a target at the table.
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Old 08-22-2005, 05:24 PM
SheridanCat SheridanCat is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

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I have called straight before when I actually had a flush. Cards speak so it is a lot of fun when my hand gets promoted and I take the pot. It always seems to make me a target at the table.

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You're lucky it hasn't made you a target away from the table.

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Old 08-22-2005, 05:40 PM
DoubleJ Chef DoubleJ Chef is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

Cards speak.

Regardless of what the guy says he has, when the cards are tabled, the dealer is required to read the hand.

Shame on the opponent for folding his hand before actually seeing if he is beat or not. True, it is dirty to say you have a better hand than you do, but I have seen this enough times to know not to throw my hand away until I personally confirm that my hand is beat.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:48 PM
James Boston James Boston is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

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If the floor rules he intentionly over called his hand and an opponent throws his hand away

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...I'm guessing you mean the opponent mucks.

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he has a dead hand.

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If it's heads up, one guy over-states his hand, the next guy mucks, and the floor rules the misrepresented hand dead, who wins the pot? Wouldn't both hands be dead?
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:37 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Verbal Hand Declarations are binding?

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If the floor rules he intentionly over called his hand and an opponent throws his hand away

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...I'm guessing you mean the opponent mucks.

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he has a dead hand.

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If it's heads up, one guy over-states his hand, the next guy mucks, and the floor rules the misrepresented hand dead, who wins the pot? Wouldn't both hands be dead?

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No, the player the acted on the misrepresentation gets the pot.
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