I KNOW it's the Devil's Hand......

[PokerBob]

.....yet I play it anyway. Please flame me.
Canterbury 15/30 9 handed. Villain here will open up his range quite a bit in LP.
one monkey limps in MP. Villain raises in the CO. I call in the BB with KJo.

Flop 3 ways: K92r
I check, monkey checks, villain bets, I raise, monkey folds, villain 3-bets. What's my line the rest of the way?

Call down.

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Call down.

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I dont think I can give a better reply than this. Against this aggressive opponent, calling down seems to be the best strategy IMO. I'd also like to mention that When an aggressive player in late position isolates a single limper, KJo in the BB is a must play, You should be folding KJo to a legitimate raise in most cases, but not in this situation, you have too big of a hand to fold so I wouldnt feel bad about calling, its the right play.

[CardSharpCook]

I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it again - Westley is one of the best posters in this forum. His post is right on the money again.

BTW: everybody knows that trip sixes is the Devil's hand.

[flawless_victory]

fourbet the flop.
bet/fold the turn.
bet/fold the river.

if he goes five on the flop, call and fold turn UI.

[CardSharpCook]

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fourbet the flop.
bet/fold the turn.
bet/fold the river.

if he goes five on the flop, call and fold turn UI.

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Huh?

[flawless_victory]

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fourbet the flop.
bet/fold the turn.
bet/fold the river.

if he goes five on the flop, call and fold turn UI.

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Huh?

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well my post was as clear/concise as they come, so what is it you are huh-ing?

[CardSharpCook]

your line is baffling. 4bet and bet/fold? So faced with the possibility of seeing the showdown for 2BBs, you would have us fold the turn after paying 1.5BBs? Are you really going to let him bluff you out for one more bet on the turn which a player like this guy is certainly capable of? Are you really going to put in another 2.5BBs and then fold to a desperation river bluff?

What is the purpose of 4betting here? Are we trying to shut him out of 3 outs on the river? Or do we want to tell him in even more precise terms, "yes, I have a king or better." Your clear/concise post requires some explanation. In fact, clear concise isn't what you should be going for. Help the OP (and the rest of us) follow your train of thought and understand why your baffling line is best. This isn't a quiz to see who can give the right answer the fastest, this is a place for discussion of what and WHY a play is best.

That's the "huh". Your line seems like bluff-killing spewing and you haven't provided an explanation as to why you might be right.

[flawless_victory]

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So faced with the possibility of seeing the showdown for 2BBs, you would have us fold the turn after paying 1.5BBs? Are you really going to let him bluff you out for one more bet on the turn which a player like this guy is certainly capable of?

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the playr description was brief, but from what i read the is NO FVCKING WAY he is capable of bluffing there... 99.9% of live 15/30 plyrs are not. if he raises the expensive sts. after u show aggresion, u are dead.


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What is the purpose of 4betting here?

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wins substantially more than calling down flop/turn and prob watching the river go checkcheck.
good for metagame....
in my regular live 30 (i dont play much recently because its not worth that much $wise), alot of the plyrs are scared of me... they actively avoid me cause im so aggro... that is a good thing.

[worm33]

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fourbet the flop.
bet/fold the turn.
bet/fold the river.

if he goes five on the flop, call and fold turn UI.

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Playing live this would be my line. When you fourbet its goona freeze him no matter what he has, and you should be able to tell if its a "[censored] maybe my ak is no good" or [censored] "I gotta pay him off with 88."