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Old 08-18-2005, 08:37 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

Do I need to get to showdown here? Villain is 60/10 and of unknown aggression over a small sample. In other words, no read.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

fine.

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

And if the villain fires again on the river, he should call one more bet, right?
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:49 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

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And if the villain fires again on the river, he should call one more bet, right?

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Hell yeah.

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Old 08-18-2005, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

I fold to the turn raise here. The pot is small there is an overcard and you are probably dodging a lot of cards with the flush draw here if you are not already behind
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

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Do I need to get to showdown here? Villain is 60/10 and of unknown aggression over a small sample. In other words, no read.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

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I reraise the turn [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Someone that loose tends to have picked up a flush or paired his 56o. Charge him and bet/call the river. A read could definately swing this to your line, but this is how'd I play it.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

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I reraise the turn Someone that loose tends to have picked up a flush or paired his 56o. Charge him and bet/call the river. A read could definately swing this to your line, but this is how'd I play it.

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This is an excellent way to piss away a bunch of chips. There are guys who take shots at the turn with a semi-bluff or if a scare card hits, but that isn't the norm at 5/10 IMO.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

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I reraise the turn Someone that loose tends to have picked up a flush or paired his 56o. Charge him and bet/call the river. A read could definately swing this to your line, but this is how'd I play it.

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Yeah, thats a little much. the reason that you need to call down here is b/c you're getting good odds from the pot. once he raises the turn you're probably beat, so putting extra bets in here isn't good.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

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I fold to the turn raise here. The pot is small there is an overcard and you are probably dodging a lot of cards with the flush draw here if you are not already behind

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The pot's not that small here. if he bets everytime on river, you're going to call 2 BB to win 7.16 BB's. almost certainly you're good more than the 21% needed here(including the times when he draws out). no reads on the guy, but 60vpip at least hints that his range here is quite large
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Here\'s the type of hand I have problems with.

Dan,

Realize that your range of hands here is so wide that your opponent can raise this turn profitably with a number of hands that you're still ahead of. 88 is a strong hand to be holding here and you should definitely call him down.

Said another way- imagine how your opponent could exploit you if he knew you would fold everything less than top pair here. Gotta keep his punk ass honest.

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