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#1
09-20-2005, 04:09 AM
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Can I fold this river? Tough hand.
I get a dream flop here but feel I am unsure of my play on every street.
(Note: New table, but fairly passive) On the flop Im trying to keep players in to build up a pot for my flush. When its raised I push back to see if he is taking a free card for his draw or if he has a set or a made straight. The turn brings the scare card, so I feel I can check to the flop raiser. If he checks through I will value bet the river UI, but if he bets I easily have the outs to play on for my flush draw. A bet-any line just doesnt seem right here. When this passive player bets the river I figure to be totally dead, but is the crying call worth it for 11BB? Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, SB calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. River: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.50 BB 
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#3
09-20-2005, 04:15 AM
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Re: Can I fold this river? Tough hand.
Raise the flop. You'll get a caller or two anyway, and 2/3 of the time your flush won't come in and your top pair is vulnerable.
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#4
09-20-2005, 04:16 AM
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Re: Can I fold this river? Tough hand.
Im raising that flop.
Theres a chance to thin the field, maybe win the pot. the flush draw is only a draw. and your hand on the flop is vulrnable.
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#5
09-20-2005, 04:19 AM
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Re: Can I fold this river? Tough hand.
[ QUOTE ]
Raise the flop. You'll get a caller or two anyway, and 2/3 of the time your flush won't come in and your top pair is vulnerable. [/ QUOTE ] exactly how I feel. If they call, it's for value, if they fold, you protected your hand. win/win
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#6
09-20-2005, 09:28 AM
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Re: Can I fold this river? Tough hand.
Why do you want to build the pot? The keep your customers logic is flawed. Raise flop and bet turn and you won't get to the difficult river.
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