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Old 02-17-2005, 06:56 PM
gamblore99 gamblore99 is offline
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Default tough river fold

only have 15 hands with villain but hes 40/13/1.5
the original raiser had something like 60/27/1.5 only after 20 hands, but i didnt see that at the time. should i just entirely ignore PT data with sample sizes this small?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

River: (13.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.20 BB
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:00 PM
Macdaddy Warsaw Macdaddy Warsaw is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

Not commenting on your PT data, but why call the turn if you're going to fold the river. If he has the 4 he has the straight already and you're drawing dead by the turn. If you're looking to improve with an A or J, the 2 on the river seems like a very decent card...

Fold the turn or call the river is the way I see it. I lean towards calling the river.
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:09 PM
SmileyEH SmileyEH is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

I like calling flop and turn then raising river. As you played it though I'd have to call the river as well.

-SmileyEH
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:42 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

Please don't fold here.
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:24 PM
sammy_g sammy_g is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

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Not commenting on your PT data, but why call the turn if you're going to fold the river.

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Because the 3rd flush card came on the river.

(It's still a bad fold.)
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:24 PM
sammy_g sammy_g is offline
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Please don't fold here.

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Old 02-17-2005, 08:29 PM
Joe826 Joe826 is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

this looks like something i would do. that's not a good thing [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img].
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Old 02-17-2005, 09:14 PM
Rudis Rudis is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

Is it just I that think the problem is the pf 3-bet?....
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Old 02-17-2005, 10:23 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

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Is it just I that think the problem is the pf 3-bet?....

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Probably. I'm not at all concerned about AA-JJ or AK/AQ until preflop gets capped.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:17 PM
freemoney freemoney is offline
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Default Re: tough river fold

thats ridiculous almost 90% of the time if i am HU and have position and i raised and was 3bet by villian i wont cap with AA, ill call his flop bet, and pop him on the turn, what im saying is that because it is not capped does not mean you arent concerned with those hands.
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