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Old 10-26-2005, 08:46 PM
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Default Flopped Top and Bottom pair, standard play?

Other than CRing the flop, is this standard? I figure it is likely he could have Q better kicker or a J. This is a PokerStars 5.5 multi.

PokerStars Game #2900925653: Tournament #14116054, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2005/10/26 - 20:42:02 (ET)
Table '14116054 137' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dangeruss1 (875 in chips)
Seat 2: sigou1977 (3340 in chips)
Seat 3: sambreaker8 (4580 in chips)
Seat 4: fatherof5gir (2700 in chips)
Seat 5: txageric (2605 in chips)
Seat 6: qandasbs (3430 in chips)
Seat 7: MAGOO53 (2305 in chips)
Seat 8: VinnyTheFish (1030 in chips)
Seat 9: goldyfishy (1795 in chips)
VinnyTheFish: posts small blind 25
goldyfishy: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to goldyfishy [8d Qd]
Dangeruss1: calls 50
sigou1977: calls 50
sambreaker8: calls 50
fatherof5gir: folds
txageric: folds
qandasbs: calls 50
MAGOO53: calls 50
VinnyTheFish: calls 25
goldyfishy: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h Qh Jc]
VinnyTheFish: checks
goldyfishy: bets 200
Dangeruss1: folds
sigou1977: folds
sambreaker8: folds
qandasbs: calls 200
MAGOO53: calls 200
VinnyTheFish: calls 200
*** TURN *** [8h Qh Jc] [Jd]
VinnyTheFish: checks
goldyfishy: checks
qandasbs: checks
MAGOO53: bets 450
VinnyTheFish: folds
goldyfishy: folds
qandasbs: folds
MAGOO53 collected 1150 from pot
MAGOO53: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1150 | Rake 0
Board [8h Qh Jc Jd]
Seat 1: Dangeruss1 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: sigou1977 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: sambreaker8 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: fatherof5gir folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: txageric folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: qandasbs folded on the Turn
Seat 7: MAGOO53 (button) collected (1150)
Seat 8: VinnyTheFish (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: goldyfishy (big blind) folded on the Turn
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Top and Bottom pair, standard play?

The flop looks fine.

Once you check, I am not sure you can fold to the small bet on the turn. I might lead out on the turn and see what happens. With 3 callers, it is reasonably likely someone has a jack (or a straight), but I would hate to fold 2 pair so easily.

What buyin is this? The play seems awfully loose/passive.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Top and Bottom pair, standard play?

It's a pokerstars 5.50 freezeout. I thought about betting about 400 or so on the turn, but with so many people in the hand, I don't think I beat many hands that call my flop bet.
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Flopped Top and Bottom pair, standard play?

[ QUOTE ]
The flop looks fine.

Once you check, I am not sure you can fold to the small bet on the turn. I might lead out on the turn and see what happens. With 3 callers, it is reasonably likely someone has a jack (or a straight), but I would hate to fold 2 pair so easily.

What buyin is this? The play seems awfully loose/passive.

[/ QUOTE ]

I prefer an open-fold to leading the turn.

The flop is just fine, but you got THREE calls and you now have top pair no kicker on a way coordinated board. Your odds of being good here are strikingly close to zero. You're so, so done with this hand.

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