$55... Bleh...

[bigt439]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t855)
Hero (t885)
UTG (t2080)
UTG+1 (t1080)
MP1 (t895)
MP2 (t1235)
MP3 (t930)
CO (t1255)
Button (t785)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, Hero calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30.

Turn: (t180) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, Hero?

This hand bothers me, mainly because I don't think it should.

[tigerite]

Folds. I might have raised the flop, but here I just let it go.

[bigt439]

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Folds. I might have raised the flop, but here I just let it go.

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3 nut outs, 9 outs to a huge hand, 5 outs that are likely good, and position? I'm not saying you're wrong, I actually think fold might be the best play, I'm just trying to convince myself compeltely one way or the other.

[RobGW]

Bleh is right. You have just enough outs to call this based on pot odds alone. Include implied odds and you can call if you want. I dont really see UTG+1 getting frisky. I really dont see SB folding to a raise either. You could call the 150 and see what happens. Folding is also a good option. I think it depends on how you feel about gambling for the big stack and dealing with the loss of 150 chips when you miss vs just folding and finding another spot. I'd call here but its marginal. I personally like having the big stack and will gamble to get it. If I miss I wont give up and still feel I can get back into it.

[inyaface]

I typed out an answer and then realised I really don't know how to play this. I think fold call and push are all decent lines. I need to think about this more because I'm actually kind of confused... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[ChrisV]

I'd call. Push is OK too, but it's a bit of a nuclear option with only one card to come. If SB has a hand that won't call the push, you may well get an opportunity to take the pot off him on the river.

Fold is crazy. Give SB something like QT and you're looking at 17 outs, plus the chance you already have the best hand. I think UTG+1 called speculatively and I don't think he's calling here.

[durron597]

Do you have any evidence that he might fold a weak ten? If yes then I would push, if no then I would call.

[bigt439]

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Do you have any evidence that he might fold a weak ten? If yes then I would push, if no then I would call.

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Remember there's a guy behind me who cold called the flop after limping in, so he has a kind of weird range. If this guy isn't behind me I'm pretty sure I either have to call or push (in that scenario I would prefer calling). Folding hu with that many outs and the position to extract (i.e. good implied odds) is kind of wack I think, but this guy behind changed the situation significantly enough to potentially alter my play.

Seems like everyone's a little stumped. We'll send her through the front page one more time.

[Rduke55]

As weak as this sounds I call this because of the guy behind me. If you hit one of your big cards you probably have a hand that would do well against 2 opponents. The guy behind you may not come along anyways.

[downtown]

I would call here. I wouldn't count the guy calling behind you on the flop to a t30 bet any different than checking behind. If he pushes or something you can safely fold, unless he is make-a-play-tastic. Otherwise you're going to get to act in position on the river, there are about a million scare cards for the initial bettor if he has a T, and did I mention you get to act in position on the river? I like a call.