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whats your play?
When this play came up i just didnt know what to do. With reads this decision would be alot easier but i had none on the table yet. What do you guys do in this position with no reads?
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (11 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero... Raise? Fold? |
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Re: whats your play?
fold. he wouldnt bluff at a pot with this many players and a pf raiser. your 9s are surely no g00t.
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#3
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Re: whats your play?
I would probably just give up immediately. There's not much to bet on that flop, and even if UTG+1 has, say, a worse pocket pair instead of a king, CO could easily have just hit the flop. Or he could have a better pair than you (like QQ/JJ) that he feels attached to. And someone else could also have a king (or even a 3, though that's less likely).
Anyway, I think you're probably behind. And you're not closing the action and have little chance to improve. |
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Re: whats your play?
I wonder if betting this flop from UTG+1 with QJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is correct. I suspect that it is...
This hand is really villian dependant. I for example would never bet anything good in this spot except maybe quads (since I would never limp 3x UTG+1). Certain players would only bet a king or better here so it is tough to say. In general, you should be critical when people lead out like this into a field with a PFR. They usually don't have the hand that they are representing. This might be the one case where the dude actually has a King+ since the board has no other possibilities. Brad |
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Re: whats your play?
Wow. When I saw this I was thinking all of the advice would be raise preflop and raise the flop. I think UTG+1 has a pocket pair very often. The only king hands I could think of would be KQo/KJ/KTs/K9s. Any pocket pair would be betting this flop to test the pfr. I would raise and reevaluate if CO 3-bets. Perhaps I am too aggressive in this situation.
What would you do if the flop was 833r? |
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Re: whats your play?
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What would you do if the flop was 833r? [/ QUOTE ] I would raise. |
#7
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Re: whats your play?
Yea im raising an 833 flop. I was also curious to see if people would tell me i should raise here preflop. I think its pretty close.
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Re: whats your play?
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Yea im raising an 833 flop. I was also curious to see if people would tell me i should raise here preflop. I think its pretty close. [/ QUOTE ] A preflop raise is certainly something to consider. I most likely would have raised preflop. Edit: Still, I don't really mind the limp. The presence of the poster does increase the attractiveness of a raise, though, I think. |
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Re: whats your play?
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (11 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (8.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero...? |
#10
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Re: whats your play?
Uhh I hope that you are just asking as a formality. This is the worlds easiest bet here. Also fold it if you get check/raised.
Brad |
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