2nd nut draws in both directions - PLO8

[Burdzthewurd]

PLO8 100 on Bodog, 7-handed

SB is a big donk playing any 4

Me : $90
CO: $28
SB: $33

2 folds, and I make it 3 to go with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds

Flop comes 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB pots it for $10, I call (probably should raise here, huh?), CO moves in for $24.50, SB calls all-in, I call

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

River T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB scoops with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9
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CO mucked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]



Twodimes on the flop:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1142650
pokenum -o8 kc 4c as qh - jh 2h 9h 9s - ad 5d 8h 2s -- 8s 9c 2c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 8s 9c 2c
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As Kc 4c Qh 197 221 445 0 390 36 9 0.498
9s Jh 9h 2h 121 425 241 0 0 0 0 0.410
2s Ad 5d 8h 11 20 646 0 96 330 9 0.092

My actions ok, except maybe raise instead of just calling on the flop after the SB's bet?

[Ribbo]

I would fold the flop. To be even money, both your draws have to be live. Considering you have invested so little preflop, there is no reason to shove when you cannot be certain of your odds.

[sy_or_bust]

If you have reason to believe the shortstacks are getting out of line on the flop (i.e. great chances of your high and low draws being good), you can get it all in there 3-handed. Your first-in raise doesn't seem that strong, so having both the best low most of the time and the best high most of the time is enough to show a profit. Your opponents would have to be pretty bad for this to be true.

Problem is, this pot looks like it will be heads-up, your high hand is totally speculative, and your low draw is non-nut w/o backup. You don't want to get it all in on the flop against whatever SB has. I'd fold the flop too.

[Wintermute]

Since both opponents' stacks are short, I would just raise the pot on the flop.

[emptyshell]

Your play looks fine to me, considering the shortstacks. I'm not sure what a flop raise would give you since it is unlikely you will win it right there. Might as well call and bring along the third player, knowing that all the money is going in at some point.