Does this sound like cheating to you!?!?!

HigherAce · #1 09-28-2004, 07:17 PM

Ok now im having a problem with the burn cards. I mean i know there done so no ones cheating but explain how you couldnt cheat after the burn cards? and if i have 55 and both of my 5's are still in the deck(in this example) and they both happen to land on the burn cards this means that not only should i ahve hit those cards on the board but i was dealt a hand that is imposible to improve. How is that in itself not cheating me. Not just me but everyone involved in the hand. How is taking two cards and making them not even a possibility to see them fair for anyoen at the table. what is the point? now not only do you have to hope to hit your card but you have to hope its not landing on one of the burn cards. Which is infact the next one that should be layed on the board. I just dont get how taking 2 cards outa the deck does anything but cheat everyone whos playing. example---i flopped the straight with 57 board comes 689(burn)2(burn)7. only guy in with me turns over 102. so now instead of going through 5 cards for the flop its seven in which the last two never should of even been seen. someone please explain this to me. because with this kinda hand happening i do now feel like i was cheated(maybe not by card tricks or anything but by that the first burn card shoulda been the turn and the 2 shoulda been the river. I just dont get it

random · #2 09-28-2004, 07:30 PM

the bottom card of the deck has no chance of improving your hand, either.

i don't know why burning cards is the custom. maybe it makes it harder to stack the deck. or maybe it is to cheat you out of your flopped straights.

chesspain · #3 09-28-2004, 07:36 PM

Don't you know drugs will ruin your mind?

Iplayragstoo · #4 09-28-2004, 07:50 PM

Wow...your way to smart to be playing in these small sad home games..you should move up to no limit casino poker right away. They still waste those two cards in those games, but someone who has thought this out so well should be able to overcome that without a problem. If you want some practice we could lock up a few $$$ and try some heads up - just for practice of course

HigherAce · #5 09-28-2004, 07:53 PM

I dont care about that particular hand, it was just an example. Was just wondering how it keeps people from cheating. I mean if you had the skill to stack the deck would having to put a space between them be that difficult? just wondering [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] just makes more sense to me to let the cards fall how they should. I mean hell why not reshuffle after the flop and the turn then.

DimensionPresident · #6 09-28-2004, 07:58 PM

Here's something to think about that may keep you up at night...

What if your third or fourth five doesn't come up because they're deeper in the deck and if you don't burn 3 cards it won't get there?

HigherAce · #7 09-28-2004, 08:02 PM

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Wow...your way to smart to be playing in these small sad home games..you should move up to no limit casino poker right away. They still waste those two cards in those games, but someone who has thought this out so well should be able to overcome that without a problem. If you want some practice we could lock up a few $$$ and try some heads up - just for practice of course

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Your missing my point was wondering how it prevented cheaters if they knew there were gonna be burn cards. Guess what, thats why I put it here BECAUSE it is just like the casino's. Captain Obvious strikes again. BTW Speaking of locking up open wide [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] and lock your lips around my....

B4TTERY · #8 09-28-2004, 08:08 PM

Decaf, dude....decaf.

Eihli · #9 09-28-2004, 08:10 PM

I'm going to ignore a lot of things in this post and try to give you the simple answer you were looking for. If someone marked the cards, burning the card on top of the deck prevents them from knowing what the next card turned over will be.

Saint_D · #10 09-28-2004, 08:10 PM

The point of the burn is to foil people who palm cards. It's not foolproof, but I am told that it makes it harder. In a casino with a camera, it makes several dealer collusion tricks just hard enough that you can spot them on camera.

This is hearsay. I don't know if it's really true. I would worry more about false cuts and dealing off the bottom of the deck. Which I don't worry about at all in my home game.