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Old 12-12-2005, 11:24 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

I was looking over my play from last night ... <font color="red"> $110ish on tilt so far...</font> then this...PartyPoker - $50 NL Texas - 6 players (Converter: PGC)

Button is N/A

Starting Balances:
Button: $54.33
SB: $19.5
<font color="red">Hero: $49.25</font>
UTG: $58.35
UTG+1: $41.24
CO: $49.25

Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button RAISES ($1.5)</font>
<font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero RAISES ($4.5)</font>, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) FLOP: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $10.25 )
<font color="red">Hero BETS ($10)</font>, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) TURN: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $30.25 )
Hero is All-In, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) RIVER: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $64.5 )


Final Pot: $64.5
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:30 AM
beavens beavens is offline
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

i think you're looking at A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]x here.

.edit any reason for the pf rr OOP or just tilting? villian holding AdJx?
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:33 AM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

I just call PF.

If the $10 flop bet leaves you with only 17 behind on the turn -- less than the size of the pot if the opponent calls -- then I just push the flop given the way you played PF.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:18 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

That pre-flop raise bloats the pot so that you are pretty much stack-committed once the Q hit. Villain probably has A or K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. This is a hand that is tough to play OOP unless you hit your straight or flush, your strategy has to be to get a cheap showdown with TP. Not sure how you can accomplish this with your line.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

This looks like a hand that I played earlier!!

Let's just say it didn't end well.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:27 PM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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i would of just called pf. the way u played i dont think theres much else you can do post flop.

paul
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

[ QUOTE ]
That pre-flop raise bloats the pot so that you are pretty much stack-committed once the Q hit.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yep, I just call preflop.

[ QUOTE ]
Villain probably has A or K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. This is a hand that is tough to play OOP unless you hit your straight or flush, your strategy has to be to get a cheap showdown with TP. Not sure how you can accomplish this with your line.

[/ QUOTE ] This is probably best case scenario for hero

You're actually a dog on the flop is villain has a J and a diamond. Not to mention if he has AQ
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

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I was looking over my play from last night ... <font color="red"> $110ish on tilt so far...</font> then this...PartyPoker - $50 NL Texas - 6 players (Converter: PGC)

Button is N/A

Starting Balances:
Button: $54.33
SB: $19.5
<font color="red">Hero: $49.25</font>
UTG: $58.35
UTG+1: $41.24
CO: $49.25

Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button RAISES ($1.5)</font>
<font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero RAISES ($4.5)</font>, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) FLOP: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $10.25 )
<font color="red">Hero BETS ($10)</font>, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) TURN: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $30.25 )
Hero is All-In, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>

(2 players) RIVER: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: $64.5 )


Final Pot: $64.5

[/ QUOTE ]

Preflop: If you are gonna take it away because Button is stealing, then take it away with a real raise. Otherwise, just call. As played, this is where your problem started. The larger pot preflop lead to the inevitable.

Flop: I like it. But, when he calls, I'm slowing down.

Turn: Why? You have ~$35 and the pot is $30. This push probably folds worse hands and lets better hands have your stack. I'm probably checking here, but I'm curious to see what others advocate.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: I\'m not even sure what to say...comments on all streets

I sometimes think like the hero and push this turn.

Some reasons are:
-you don't want to give a diamond a free look.
-Yes, it helps control the pot. But you will also get calls from A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
-I don't know if worse hands fold ALWAYS here, but alot of times, you will get a call from pair+FD, in which we are a small favorite.

Mainly turn shove is to prevent us having our river action killed for free, and gain value from those who will call our push with Ad or Kd.

Edit: I also dislike PF. Raise more or call IMO. Flop is good.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:58 PM
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Preflop: Not a fan of the OOP reraise with KQs. I'd probably call here and hope to hit the flop pretty well.

Flop: Flop bet is great, with a scary board a PSB should be taking down the pot more often than not.

Turn: After villain called the flop bet, I'm slowing way, way down. Villain raised and called a reraise preflop, and called a PSB on the flop, so he has to have something to be sticking around. Overpairs and sets here are a strong consideration along with flush draws. With TPGK, I'd want to keep the pot small. My action here would be to check/call a weakish bet/fold.

River: If action was check-check on the turn, I'd probably check/fold.

Basic overall idea: Big pots are usually not too profitable with tpgk in my opinion...
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