How do I protect this?

JasonP530 · #1 07-25-2005, 05:13 AM

Playing in a great 20/40 online game, as will be evident.

UTG limps, UTG+1 raises and 6 people call to me in the BB with red KK. I 3 bet, UTG+1 caps and we are off to the races with 8 people for 4 bets.

Flop is 762 and 2 hearts.

I led, hoping that UTG+1(capper) would raise and possibly clear some people out. 3 people cold called and I called.

The turn was a 2, and I led again hoping to be raised and get the others out in this massive pot. This was the best way I could think of to protect my hand, as I was afraid that 3 betting the flop might scare him into just calling me on the turn, when I needed him to raise the others out.

Is there a better line to protect my hand?

P.S. If he raises me on the turn, can I 3 bet, or do I just call, given that he has raised me in every spot?

Chris Daddy Cool · #2 07-25-2005, 05:18 AM

what ever happened to getting maximum value out of your hand?

ike · #3 07-25-2005, 05:19 AM

[censored] protecting your hand, you can't. Just jam the hell out of it and win more than your share.

flawless_victory · #4 07-25-2005, 05:23 AM

you got a sweeet turn card... checkraise everybody!

smurfitup · #5 07-25-2005, 05:46 AM

the pot is way too big to think that anyone will fold for 2 bets on the flop... i check-raise the field on the flop for value... same w/ the turn...

oreogod · #6 07-25-2005, 05:59 AM

yeah you need to ram and jam this.

Analyst · #7 07-25-2005, 10:16 AM

With 8 people in a capped pot, there's already enough in the pot pre-flop to justify calling 3 cold on the turn with a flush or OESD, even if nothing goes in on the flop. In theory, you could have check-called the flop and try to protect yourself from a gutshot on the turn, but that's about it. Why bother? Ram'n'jam, as others have said.

I'd 3-bet the turn and slow down on the river if UTG+1 caps. If he has AA, so be it.

#8 07-25-2005, 11:49 AM

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P.S. If he raises me on the turn, can I 3 bet, or do I just call, given that he has raised me in every spot?

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You always should 3 bet him. An aggressive, even just a slightly aggressive player will have capped preflop with QQ and JJ because of the great pot odds of hitting his set. Likewise, on a 7-high flop, QQ pretty much has to raise with all those draws out there.

I think you've got to 3 bet this against all but the tightest of players.