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Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
I apologize if these are excessively standard. I just want a little check-up.
The basic idea is these games are pretty aggro and they'll bet a lot more hands then they will call with on the turn. If the boards were dry I would check/call and block the river, but there is far too good of a chance that I am ahead and the pot is large. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx MP ($169.96) Button ($52.80) SB ($198.90) Hero ($212.35) UTG ($300.66) Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP calls $10, Button calls $10. Flop: ($37) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, MP calls $35, Button folds. Turn: ($107) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $75</font>, Hero bets $165.35 (All-In) Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx CO ($199.50) Button ($399.82) SB ($198) BB ($113.50) Hero ($200) MP ($305.26) Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, Button calls $16. Turn: ($49) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $46.55</font>, Hero bets $177 (All-In) |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
Second hand looks better than the first, because the flop is so much more draw heavy and so much less believable that you have anything.
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
xorbie,
Are you check-folding the turn in hand 1 barring a read? I even have 6 outs against a hand like 77 and even more against some two pair hand (and given the open limp from MP, a set seems unlikely). |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
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Are you check-folding the turn in hand 1 barring a read? [/ QUOTE ] No, that sounds pretty atrocious. I just don't think I would check raise. |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
check calling leaves over $250 in the pot on the river with effective stacks of $50!
are you advocating a weakish lead/fold to raise line? this is kinda gross given how many outs i may have (12 against something like T9) |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
I would probably bet 2/3 pot.
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
I can't see how this is a better line given that I can't fold to a raise all-in getting over 6 to 1 if he pushes, AND he'll almost certainly BET more hands than he will CALL a basically all-in bet with.
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
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I can't see how this is a better line given that I can't fold to a raise all-in getting over 6 to 1 if he pushes, AND he'll almost certainly BET more hands than he will CALL a basically all-in bet with. [/ QUOTE ] You sure about that? |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
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[ QUOTE ] I can't see how this is a better line given that I can't fold to a raise all-in getting over 6 to 1 if he pushes, AND he'll almost certainly BET more hands than he will CALL a basically all-in bet with. [/ QUOTE ] You sure about that? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not, but I'm sure I'd hate for the turn to get checked through on this board unless the poker gods have already promised me a river card that makes my play there easy. |
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Re: Two overpair hands -- two turn c/r all ins
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[ QUOTE ] I can't see how this is a better line given that I can't fold to a raise all-in getting over 6 to 1 if he pushes, AND he'll almost certainly BET more hands than he will CALL a basically all-in bet with. [/ QUOTE ] You sure about that? [/ QUOTE ] Um.. yes I am.. I'd love to hear an explanation why betting is better than checking. |
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