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Old 11-24-2005, 09:59 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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Default 99 VS LRR omg omg omg happy thanksgiving

Ok this guy is unknown, I was suspicious of the LRR. should i just fold the flop here with the king or do i need to see a showdown?
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Preflop: Silkyslim is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Silkyslim raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Silkyslim calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Silkyslim checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Silkyslim calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Silkyslim checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Silkyslim calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Silkyslim checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Silkyslim calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:16 PM
olavfo olavfo is offline
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Default Re: 99 VS LRR omg omg omg happy thanksgiving

When you call down, you invest 2.5 BB to win 5.5BB, so your effective pot odds are 2.2 : 1.

You need to win more than 1/(2.2 + 1) = 0.31 = 31% of the time to profit from calling down (for simplicity we ignore those times you improve and put in additional bets).

From my experience at Party 2/4 and 3/6 I doubt your hand is going to be good that often against a limp-reraiser, since this almost always indicates a big pair or sometimes AKs. Of course this is assuming he is sane. Against a maniac I would call down, but against a TAG or an unknown I'll almost always fold on this flop.

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Old 11-25-2005, 12:04 AM
Yako Yako is offline
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Default Re: 99 VS LRR omg omg omg happy thanksgiving

Um, from my experience at PP 2/4, a l/rr is usually anything BUT a big PP or AK. Unless the person who l/rr is someone who raises like 2% of their hands, a l/rr is usually a drawing hand, and op will play it as if it's a big PP.
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:17 AM
krimson krimson is offline
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Default Re: 99 VS LRR omg omg omg happy thanksgiving

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Um, from my experience at PP 2/4, a l/rr is usually anything BUT a big PP or AK. Unless the person who l/rr is someone who raises like 2% of their hands, a l/rr is usually a drawing hand, and op will play it as if it's a big PP.

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People always give this repsonse, but I just don't find this to be true.

When the pot is really small like this I find the LRR is usually business. When someone LRR's in a big multiway hand, it effectively means nothing, just someone building a big pot. This looks like he a very intentional LRR, and I would suspect it is AA/KK 50+% of the time.

If this guy is a total fish, and Hero has been isolating him constantly, villian may be fighting back, but it doesn't sound like that's the case here.

edit: I just noticed this is in a 6-max game. In which case, disregard the above. I alsmost never see LRR's UTG in a 6-max game, most people aren't that dumb [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I have no clue what this means.
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