is there any way of knowing or avoiding this

ME - Slick_Rick

Table 'Camelia' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Redram ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: Baseking ($2.98 in chips)
Seat 3: scotte2hoty ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 4: akashaRdr ($8.04 in chips)
Seat 5: Drunor ($0.90 in chips)
Seat 6: coolrock ($3.31 in chips)
Seat 7: ME ($2 in chips)
Seat 8: King Strider ($2.92 in chips)
Seat 9: smo2k1 ($1.34 in chips)
coolrock: posts small blind $0.01
Sharp_05: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ME [9c 8c]
King Strider: folds
smo2k1: folds
smo2k1 leaves the table
Redram: calls $0.02
Baseking: raises $0.06 to $0.08
scotte2hoty: calls $0.08
akashaRdr: folds
RottenRodney joins the table at seat #9
Drunor: folds
coolrock: folds
ME: calls $0.06
Redram: calls $0.06
*** FLOP *** [Ac 4c 4s]
Me: bets $0.12
Redram: folds
Baseking: raises $0.12 to $0.24
scotte2hoty: calls $0.24
Me: calls $0.12
*** TURN *** [Ac 4c 4s] [Jd]
Me: checks
Baseking: bets $0.50
scotte2hoty: calls $0.50
Me: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [Ac 4c 4s Jd] [6c]
coolrock leaves the table
Me: bets $1.18 and is all-in
Baseking: folds
TripleG3 joins the table at seat #6
scotte2hoty: calls $1.18
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Me: shows [9c 8c] (a flush, Ace high)
scotte2hoty: shows [6d 4d] (a full house, Fours full of Sixes)
scotte2hoty collected $4.71 from pot

[theblitz]

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thx man.
i'm new at this

[theblitz]

No problem.
We all have to start somewhere.

[SideCash]

Well, it's up to you... some people will never draw to the flush on a pair board. Depending on the pot size and whos in the pot I do sometimes. The river bet isn't bad I guess... at these levels I think you still get called by the trip 4's or even top pair. At higher stakes I think your only getting called when you behind.

[Allinlife]

flop bet is horrible. you should NOT attempt these semi-bluffs with flushdraws out of position in a 4 way pot. play draws straight-forward in multiway pots. fold w/o pot odds, call with odds.

turn is ok, though I'd fold this on higher stakes. (reason being ppl will call you with much worse hands even when it is evident their hand is beaten at this lvl)

reason why you should fold the turn

you're gettin just about right odds to chase the flush, but it is not the NUT flush, meaning someone could be drawing to a higher flush and you lose your stack when that happens. moreover the board is paired, so you may be drawing dead against a fullhouse already. AVOID DRAWING TO NON-NUT HANDS out of position. it is much harder to get paid off when you bet out on river flush card. people will automatically give you credit for flush and seldom call with worse hands, while better hands will call/raise you.

I hope that helped. gl and welcome to 2+2, keep your mind open to any criticizms/suggestions. it will only help you

[stu-unger]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, it's up to you... smart people will never draw to the flush on a pair board. Depending on the pot size and whos in the pot I do not do this . The river bet is bad I guess... at these levels I think you still get called by the trip 4's or even top pair. At higher stakes I think your only getting called when you behind.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

u shouldn't call the flop against most villains, u can't call the turn, and if u get to the river u must check/call

[Komodo]

Fold the turn is easiest. You have only 20%chance to hit the flush and you dont know if it is an out or an oppurtunity to hang yourself.
It migth be correct to semibluff the flop in some cases, but it doesnt look like any of them is the type of player that fold too soon.