K/Jo...Call River?

ncboiler · #1 09-13-2005, 11:18 PM

I really need help play K/Jo. Villain is 41/6/0.71. This is an easy river fold right? Even though I didn't play it that way.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB raises, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds.

2 over cards and decent backdoor flush warrents a call?

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Top pair good kicker. BB is fairly aggessive and not a bad player but I think I have him beat. Then villian 3 bets me. The nerve of this guy!!! He has to have a min of j/10 I'm thinking.

River: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Pot to big to fold.
Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Comments on any or all streets please.

hobbsmann · #2 09-13-2005, 11:24 PM

raise preflop.

ncboiler · #3 09-13-2005, 11:26 PM

I've never seen a strategy that called for raising with K/Jo from MP. The table better be VERY tight for that.

Piiop · #4 09-13-2005, 11:26 PM

Your open-limp is really bad. You should never be openlimping from MP2. If you don't feel comfortable coming in for a raise - fold it. I would open-raise preflop.

ncboiler · #5 09-13-2005, 11:29 PM

That's two replys that say that. SSH says limp with K/Jo. Of course I would raise from late position first one in but MP2? Maybe I should start doing that.

#6 09-14-2005, 12:14 AM

SSHE assumes games are a lot looser than is the case on the internet.
1) Raise PF
2) Fold the flop. Your OC's and backdoor FD are worth about 5-5.5 outs. You're getting barely enough odds, but with two players left to act you risk being raised.
3) Flop and turn ook fine.

Bodhi · #7 09-14-2005, 01:09 AM

This is a must raise preflop.

Good turn raise, but fold to the three-bet.

Bodhi · #8 09-14-2005, 01:11 AM

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I've never seen a strategy that called for raising with K/Jo from MP.

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What a pity.
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The table better be VERY tight for that.

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Not really. You should open up raising standards considerably when it's folded to you in middle position. Do you really want the little suited connectors getting in for a single bet?

Bodhi · #9 09-14-2005, 01:12 AM

Hero also has a backdoor straight draw worth one more out. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Sarge85 · #10 09-14-2005, 02:03 AM

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I've never seen a strategy that called for raising with K/Jo from MP. The table better be VERY tight for that.

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Hmm...i could raise with a lot less here.

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