Do I have odds to continue?

Roy6 · #1 11-21-2005, 09:45 PM

I thought this was standard but I pokerstoved a bit.
Should I call the turn? I don't have odds if I follow this result. If I include bluffs (would be rare I think btw), I'd need to call the river UI.
Also, I have reverse implied odds (rivering a Q against a straight, counterfeiting 2 pairs, but he just made a boat).

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 06.5341 % [ 00.07 00.00 ] { QdQc }
Hand 2: 93.4659 % [ 00.93 00.00 ] { 99, 55-33, A2s, 76s, 54s-53s, 43s, A2o, 76o, 54o, 43o }

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB.

ArturiusX · #2 11-21-2005, 09:49 PM

Thats the most bizzare use of a pokerstove I've ever seen.

You should call because you have outs to a counterfeiting two pair.

luckyharr · #3 11-21-2005, 09:50 PM

You have to have a strong read on the SB to produce that tight of a hand range after the turn check raise.

Spicymoose · #4 11-21-2005, 09:51 PM

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Thats the most bizzare use of a pokerstove I've ever seen.

You should call because you have outs to a counterfeiting two pair.

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So you are folding any river UI, or what?

ArturiusX · #5 11-21-2005, 09:53 PM

Yeah I fold this river.

Spicymoose · #6 11-21-2005, 09:54 PM

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Yeah I fold this river.

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Thats not what I asked.

Roy6 · #7 11-21-2005, 09:55 PM

well, not counting that 44 shouldn't be contained, I think that's a pretty good hand range.

ArturiusX · #8 11-21-2005, 10:04 PM

Im not sure if you're stupid, but i just said i fold the river in this hand. Something you don't get?

Spicymoose · #9 11-21-2005, 10:11 PM

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Im not sure if you're stupid, but i just said i fold the river in this hand. Something you don't get?

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Good job with the insults. How about answering the question I asked? You said:

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You should call because you have odds to a counterfeiting two pair

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I then asked:

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So you are folding any river UI, or what?

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Then you replied:

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Yeah I fold this his river.

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Then, when I reasked my question, you restated your remark, which did not answer my question.

I don't really care about this specific river, as if I would of called the turn, I am also folding this river. Do you call most rivers, or no? I hope it is clear enough this time.

ArturiusX · #10 11-21-2005, 10:18 PM

Last time I checked, this is an unimproved river, and when refering to an event, you usually refer to a situation by using the word 'this'. This situation, leading to the river, is a fold in my mind, and the only way I'm calling is if its a Q or a counterfeit two pair card.