Had to bring out a calculator on the flop.

toss · #1 06-13-2005, 01:23 AM

Just sat down.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $2. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) calls, MP2 calls, Hero (poster) calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG bets all-in .75 SB, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, BB folds.

Turn: (7.78 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises...

Have at it.

JacksonTens · #2 06-13-2005, 01:32 AM

Let me get this right. Second pair no kicker, no draw and a call to a raise no less on the flop?? I would fold the flop. But maybe if you have a read sometimes you could raise as a bluff. But I think this is a clear fold.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SmileyEH · #3 06-13-2005, 01:32 AM

Are you bluffing at a dry sidepot?

-SmileyEH

toss · #4 06-13-2005, 01:33 AM

No way. What do you think villain is raising with right after the guy betted all-in?

SmileyEH · #5 06-13-2005, 01:36 AM

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No way. What do you think villain is raising with right after the guy betted all-in?

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A ten, a flush draw, overcards...I dunno. I don't see the purpose in raising though.

Just give me your thought process and I'll walk through it.

-SmileyEH

toss · #6 06-13-2005, 01:39 AM

MP1's range of hands that he'll raise with in this spot is wide IMO. Lets say he'll raise with overcards, a flushdraw, or a T. With the T pairing on the turn it makes it less likely that he has one and I can raise and showdown cheaply in a relatively large pot. If he 3-bets I'm outta there.

SmileyEH · #7 06-13-2005, 01:47 AM

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MP1's range of hands that he'll raise with in this spot is wide IMO. Lets say he'll raise with overcards, a flushdraw, or a T. With the T pairing on the turn it makes it less likely that he has one and I can raise and showdown cheaply in a relatively large pot. If he 3-bets I'm outta there.

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Ok I see what you're saying now. The problem I see with this though, is even though you might have an equity advantage over villian you still have the all in player to worry about, which is eating up a lot of said advantage. I don't know whether it is enough to turn it into a call or a fold - or a flop fold even. I think I''ll just either call down in this spot or fold. Bleh, strange situation - thats why I hate posting in the CO [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-SmileyEH

toss · #8 06-13-2005, 01:48 AM

UTG had very little money left. Don't you think he would stack off with any two arndom cards?

SmileyEH · #9 06-13-2005, 01:51 AM

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UTG had very little money left. Don't you think he would stack off with any two arndom cards?

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Even a random hand has 26% pot equity heads up against you.

Board: Ts 7c 2c Th
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 26.3417 % [ 00.24 00.02 ] { random }
Hand 2: 73.6583 % [ 00.72 00.02 ] { 7h4h }

-SmileyEH