a rare 2nd barrel

schwza · #1 03-28-2005, 01:34 PM

i figured the A would be a pretty good scare card, and unlikely to hit the villain.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t1599)
BB (t1070)
UTG (t1320)
Hero (t4540)
MP1 (t4553)
MP2 (t4050)
MP3 (t760)
CO (t2660)
Button (t1805)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t150, 4 folds, Button calls t150, 2 folds.

Flop: (t375) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t275, Button calls t275.

Turn: (t925) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t550, Button folds.

Final Pot: t1475

Che · #2 03-28-2005, 04:04 PM

This shouldn't be rare.

schwza · #3 03-28-2005, 04:09 PM

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This shouldn't be rare.

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yeah, that's one reason i wanted to post it. i'm working on picking spots where it's a good time for it. do you agree this is one?

Che · #4 03-28-2005, 04:15 PM

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do you agree this is one?

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Definitely.

He calls the flop with his 87/66/whatever thinking you're probably just making a continuation bet with AK/AQ but you *might* have an overpair. Oops! After that turn, he's losing either way so he quickly folds.

OTOH if he does come over the top, he is beating 44 something like 99% of the time so it's an easy muck.

This is a good play in general, but it's an excellent play when you're getting 9 for 5 on a scare card bet that pc's the opponent.

Very nice.

Che

schwah · #5 03-28-2005, 04:18 PM

yeah, i will always bet the turn in that situation when the flop is small cards and an ace or king comes on the turn.

schwza · #6 03-28-2005, 04:19 PM

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yeah, i will always bet the turn in that situation when the flop is small cards and an ace or king comes on the turn.

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ok, sweet, good tip. got any others for an auto-second-barrel?

Sam T. · #7 03-28-2005, 04:28 PM

I'm also thinking about the first barrel here. I realize that continuation bets are a standard part of the game (as they should be), but out of position with a ragged flop is there another way to play it?

I ask because if I'm the villain, I'm probably putting you you on overcards that missed. With a decent sized pot compared to my stack, if I have any kind of hand (77, 99-TT, or even a nice str8 draw), I'm coming over the top here.

Anyone else like a check-raise to represent the overpair? A free card could be bad, but might be worth the risk.

Sam

Che · #8 03-28-2005, 04:28 PM

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got any others for an auto-second-barrel?

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Cards that pair the board.

I wouldn't autobet every time the board pairs, but that is a good bluffing opportunity.

Also...cards that make a 4-straight (e.g. 7 or 6 in the posted hand).

Later,
Che