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4-handed 30-60 online. I'm relatively new to the table, so I don't really know the players.
I am in the big blind with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Folded to the small blind who raises. I call. The flop is 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He bets, I raise, he three-bets, I call. The turn is the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He bets, I raise, he three-bets, I call. The river is the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He bets and I fold. Ick. Comments? -Diplomat |
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4 handed id be tempted to play it a little more slowly on the flop and/or turn and be more focused on getting to a showdown w/ a pair of 7s.
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Upon further reflection and reading mike's response, call the turn, call the river.
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"The flop is 8 7 4 . He bets, I raise, he three-bets, I call.
The turn is the 6 . He bets, I raise, he three-bets," I gave up doing this kind of stuff for Lent. |
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I don't think these sorts of image plays have as much value on line. It's fun to go crazy though.
I call the river (no matter what came) after that much money wnet in. I think I make a large portion of my money on the river by not folding. I would like to hear thoughts on this. Enlighten me. |
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I don't see much point in raising the turn. As a semi-bluff, it doesn't have much value, he's not likely to fold after 3-betting the flop. Call the turn, then call the river (or raise if you hit one of your big draws, of course) just to look him up for future reference on how he plays his hands.
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This is where my thinking has been fundamentally whacked out over the last few weeks. Instead of "I better go slow in case he's got a bigger pair, and I might improve" I've been thinking "fuggit, I'm going to blow him off a set of 4's here."
Not suprizingly, I've been called down more, and lose more often when I go to war. -Diplomat |
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I gave up after-dinner sweets. Clearly that was a -EV decision.
-Diplomat |
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hi diplomat
no problem, we're going to start all over. i'm going to keep giving you this same advice, and true to form you're going to dismiss it. but we will continue going through the motions diplomat, you must tighten up on your starters. you can't be calling this SB with what you called him with here. not this guy diplomat. he's not playing loose late position. no he's not. this guy knows you're calling. he's got AA and nothing else. he bets....you better believe it. these people are not bullchiping you diplomat. they are really going to take your money, really. you need to make emergengy preparations for countering this threat because nothing is going to pull you out of the card room long enough to do anything with your game. you have a zillion dollars. you won't do anything until you only have a thousand left. and then it's too late. now just forget about what you learned. you didn't learn it right. it's useless to you. you're going to lose. it would be much better if you only played one hand a week but did so under the right conditions than for you to continue on like you are. one hand a week. and if the conditions aren't right, no hands a week. in a month from now, if you go 4 weeks without playing a hand, the card room should still be there. there's only one way that you can play this game diplomat. you need to read and digest both 7 card stud and omaha, because i'm going to recommend that you base whether or not you enter into a game strictly on game conditions only. and good position meaning that i want you on the right of the aggressive and calling stations in the blinds. later on, after you adjust to winning, you can get on the left of the aggressive, and go for weak tight blinds. every game you enter into from now on, will be loose and weak/ bad. that's all that you can handle right now. you're going to have a hard time finding the perfect game, but if you broaden your range of games, you should keep reasonably busy, albeit not anything nearly as exciting as what you're doing now. in these loose weak games that you find, whether 7 card or omaha or hold em, you will play as tight as a bullfrog's [censored]. Axs only on the absolute button tight. yes, too tight for positive ev. why? because you got stopped. you're like a fighter who just got knocked out. so, to get you back on your feet, we need to go over to the amateur gym and see if the coach will allow us to give free lesson to some of the aspiring golden glove talent, one of whom you will recover your masculinity with by aggressively sparring. you won't make money but you will win. that's it dip. you cannot take on the opponents you're taking on now. when the game's tough, you won't be in it. once you've become more disciplined, and are able to muck Axs first in from the CO, and any pair less than 99 from MP- to UTG, and you learn to handle the boredom and pots that you could have won if you weren't listening to this advice, once you gain control over your impulses, then you can begin to learn all over again. we will begin with broadening the number of loose games available for you to enter into by adding 7 card stud and omaha to your repetoir.. get those two books. you'll need to read, and reread and underline. get on the left of the aggressive with calling stations in the blinds for now. diplomat, of course you won't do any of this, but you might tighten a little on the starters. but you should be abstaining from all but non-loose weak/ bad type games. even passive/ average games are not for you at this time. it will be years before you're ready to take on the type opponents you're taking on now. at least two years. |
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Hi Diplomat.
The most important part of your post is the title. If you know you are blowing off chips and overplaying your hands, you can STOP doing this stuff right now. Remember that you are playing LIMIT poker, and the best hand usually wins. It's great that you can monitor yourself and realize you are making errors. Only the best players can do so. LGPG, Babe [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] |
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