Sucking at O8

[kyro]

Running bad at HE so jumping back in O8. It's been a while so I forget how to play. Here's a hand where I know I butchered it. It's so awful I feel like posting it here is just asking for me to be banned by Mat. So I want to know what is a better line? Is my raise PF terrible? I figured with A2sJTs I had a very solid hand, but being out of position will be difficult to play I realize.

Also, my flop bet is retarded. I know. Just check/fold or what?

***** Hand History for Game 2501276461 *****
$50 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Monday, August 08, 19:51:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 37060 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 6: paranator ( $50.65 )
Seat 9: qliilvliilp ( $45.25 )
Seat 5: outdrawed ( $44.65 )
Seat 4: DedManCallng ( $49.65 )
Seat 2: beamerboy77 ( $23.85 )
Seat 7: crazysob123 ( $38.10 )
Seat 8: redfcycle ( $50 )
Seat 10: KidIcarus ( $34.84 )
Seat 3: Bobolinc ( $25 )
outdrawed posts small blind [$0.25].
paranator posts big blind [$0.50].
Bobolinc posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to outdrawed [ Ad 2d Jh Th ]
crazysob123 calls [$0.50].
qliilvliilp calls [$0.50].
KidIcarus folds.
beamerboy77 calls [$0.50].
Bobolinc checks.
poseidonbkk has joined the table.
DedManCallng calls [$0.50].
outdrawed raises [$3.75].
paranator folds.
crazysob123 folds.
qliilvliilp calls [$3.50].
beamerboy77 folds.
Bobolinc folds.
DedManCallng calls [$3.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 9d, 2h ]
outdrawed bets [$13.30].
qliilvliilp raises [$26.60].
DedManCallng folds.
outdrawed is all-In [$27.35]
qliilvliilp calls [$14.05].

[Ribbo]

Thats a simple check fold on the flop, you have a terrible top and bottom 2 pair with no flush draw or low draw whatsoever.

[kyro]

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Thats a simple check fold on the flop, you have a terrible top and bottom 2 pair with no flush draw or low draw whatsoever.

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k, i thought so. i was laughing after i called because i knew it was ridiculous in and out.

what about pf? easy check or raise?

[Ribbo]

If you don't raise it preflop, you would be losing money.

[gergery]

Personally, I don't like pre-flop raising out of position with many hands at all.

[kyro]

I agree. For me, since I'm still learning how to play PF, I think raising here is a big mistake. But because I raised, and hit two pair, I felt the uncontrollable urge to push it. I think I should learn how to play PF before I start raising OOP with good but not great starting hands.

[Wintermute]

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If you don't raise it preflop, you would be losing money.

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yes, preflop raise w/ A2ds = correct

the rest of you guys need to sew it up.

[gergery]

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If you don't raise it preflop, you would be losing money.

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yes, preflop raise w/ A2ds = correct

the rest of you guys need to sew it up.

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But what if we like unicorns?

[aslowjoe]

Please excuse any erroneous comments as I don't play much O8 but I am interested in learning more.

What book was it that I read that the author said that raising pre flop offered no big advantage.(if it was Helmuth's book please ignore the comment as I do not want to admit that I read the book)

Unlike holdem which I will never enter a pot first in without a raise when playing O8 I often do. In this case with everybody in I definetly would raise but just enough to keep most players interested. Maybe to $1.50.

[kyro]

Guy shows AQ43 (forget suits) and I scoop after a K and J turn. HA!