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Old 04-18-2005, 04:28 PM
DPaley DPaley is offline
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Default Is this stat as ugly as it looks?

Over my first 2000 hands of 25NL 6-max, PT says I'm $150 in the red on my one-pair hands. When I open it up to all levels (a little 25NL full ring and about 600 of 50NL 6-max) that becomes a staggering $500 lost on one-pair hands. Is that a monster leak in my game? Do the good players play these hands profitably?

On a related note (although here sample sizes may be too small to analyze) four of my most money-losing hands are AJ, AQ, QQ and KQ. Is it likely that I'm terribly overvaluing these hands?

Even with this ugly stat I'm still winning 27PTBB/100 in 25NL 6max. Am I leaving all this extra money on the table or is it just the nature of 1-pair hands that they make you lose money? Thanks for your advice -Dan
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Is this stat as ugly as it looks?

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Over my first 2000 hands

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Stop there, play more, then post.
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:21 PM
theblitz theblitz is offline
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Default Re: Is this stat as ugly as it looks?

One point worth remembering:
The stats there include cases where the board paired.

So, if you have 4/3 and the board comes up QQT75 then it will count as a pair.
This can give you misleading results espcially when you have hands like AQ and KQ which missed the flop and folded.
If the board then paired then it will count as a pair.

Also, if your hand hits after you folded it still counts in the stats.
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:50 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Is this stat as ugly as it looks?

This is not a problem at all.

Keep in mind if you play 33 for a $1 raise preflop then don't hit your set, you just lost money on a one pair hand. No biggy. These are the losses you need to incur in order to hit your sets.

Also if you play SC and hit middle pair, you're still probably folding, but you lose whatever you've put into the pot. Again, no biggy.
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