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Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
Converter doesn't work for PRIMA if IIRC, so have made it as user friendly as possible....
Background : I have been at table for 3/4 orbits, have been raising with air and with PP's....fairly lag appearance I assume....Villain is fairly LAG non-aggressive.....(32/2) I have been raising most suited connectors when first to act and folding to strong reraises.....My Postflop AF is fairly high about ~ 5/6....... Prima 50c/$1...10 Handed... - MP1 sitting in seat 1 with $98.00 - MP2 sitting in seat 2 with $99.00 - MP3 sitting in seat 3 with $91.90 - LP sitting in seat 4 with $49.00 - BUTTON sitting in seat 5 with $84.30 [Dealer] - SB sitting in seat 6 with $196.23 - BB (VILLAIN) sitting in seat 7 with $66.03 - UTG sitting in seat 8 with $92.80 - HERO sitting in seat 9 with $138.30 - UTG+2 sitting in seat 10 with $109.35 SB posted the small blind - $0.50 Villain posted the big blind - $1.00 LP posted to play - $1.00 ** Dealing card to HERO: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folded HERO raised - $3.00 2 Folds MP2 called - $3.00 MP3 called - $3.00 Folded to Villain VILLAIN called - $3.00 ** Dealing the flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] VILLAIN checked HERO bet - $4.00 2 folds VILLAIN called - $4.00 ** Dealing the turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] VILLAIN bet - $5.00 HERO raised - $10.00 VILLAIN called - $10.00 ** Dealing the river: 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] VILLAIN checked HERO ??? What bet is going to be called ? I'm going to assume I missed my chance with the turn bet of extracting more cash...? |
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
I hate raising SC pre-flop OOP, but since you did you should have bumped up the turn to $20-$25 and then bet the pot on the river. You are only getting paid by another flush or a moron who thinks his straight is good and they will each call a pot-sized river bet.
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
raising turn to $15-18 gets more money from A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. If he doesn't have a flush he just isn't going to pay you, so I raise the turn to extract from draws, and overbet the river to look like a steal and get called by a king and a baby flush. If he folds, well next time make sure he has the second nuts when you turn the nuts [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
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Villain is fairly LAG non-aggressive. [/ QUOTE ] Those loose aggressive types that aren't aggressive always give me problems. Raise more on the turn. I probably push the river people who are paying on river generally aren't too concerned with bet size. Espcially loose passive types like this guy. |
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
fold pf. I did an experiment like this..cost me a bit of money. really this is the way to go unless this game is extremely fishy.
Raise turn to $15 IMO. you want him to draw with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Also, keep in mind the strength of your hand does not have an exact relation with how much money you will make with it. |
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
Bet more on every street except preflop. Why on earth would you bet $4 into a $13 4-way pot on the flop?
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
bet more on the flop. the pot is $12...would you bet $4 if you had AA? there should be harmony between your bluffs and your real hands..
might as well push the river. with villain's stack, he'll call a push if he's going to call anything... |
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
Push the river.
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
FWIW, I bet $15 and the bet was called....
His hand was mucked and I don't know what he had... I think I should have pushed... Thanks for the replies.... |
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Re: Extraction technique with the absolute nuts...?
id bet the 1/2 pot, and only so litte because if hes really LAG, he will reraise you thinking he can push you off, so i think a small bet 15-20ish will show weakness, and then maybe you can extract some, or just make a reall small bet like 5$ so he might call you with a K, or a small flush
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