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Folding Kings in Level 1
Level 1 in a $50 SnG.
***** Hand History for Game 3133371103 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17926262 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, December 02, 19:28:53 EDT 2005 Table Table 68363 (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 2: Kjettsan ( $1000 ) Seat 10: ATorgersen ( $1022 ) Seat 5: Poker_Beaver ( $970 ) Seat 1: NickyOD ( $985 ) Seat 7: LukB_A_Lady ( $960 ) Seat 6: golden_robbo ( $970 ) Seat 4: Jonnygut ( $1350 ) Seat 8: BIGBRI123111 ( $758 ) Seat 3: BrianCardnal ( $985 ) Seat 9: bigpep ( $1000 ) Trny:17926262 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to NickyOD [ Ks Kc ] <----Bada Bing! ATorgersen calls [15]. NickyOD raises [75]. Kjettsan folds. BrianCardnal folds. Jonnygut raises [175].<---This kind of micro raise always means the same thing at these tables. AA or KK. Poker_Beaver folds. golden_robbo folds. LukB_A_Lady folds. BIGBRI123111 is all-In [748] Ugh! bigpep folds. ATorgersen folds. NickyOD folds. Jonnygut calls [583]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 9h, 6c ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ] ** Dealing River ** [ 5c ] Jonnygut shows [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and fives. Whoops! BIGBRI123111 shows [ Qc, As ] a pair of fives. Question. If I get to see there cards first, do I push? |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
My god, this is a bad fold.
[ QUOTE ] If I get to see there cards first, do I push? [/ QUOTE ] Of course. |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
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My god, this is a bad fold. [/ QUOTE ] If I correctly read that the first reraise is either KK or AA then the fold is automatic [ QUOTE ] If I get to see there cards first, do I push? Of course. [/ QUOTE ] Why? |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
The AQ will win 32% of the time and the other KK will win 3% of the time. You will chop 64% and win 1%.
The pot would have been around 748*3 + 25 (blinds), so 2270 total. You would win 0 35% of the time. 1135 chips 64% of the time, and 2270 1% of the time. 0 * 34% = 0 1135 * 64% = 726.4 2270 * 1* = 22.7 Total Expected Chips = 749 So it looks like it doesn't really matter what you do b/c your expectation will be the same whether you fold or call. |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
I never fold KK in situations like this because often enough that bet that must mean he has AA/KK turns out to be JJ-QQ, AKs. I have to admit that I do fold QQ at times to very heavy preflop action in level 1-2.
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
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Question. If I get to see there cards first, do I push? [/ QUOTE ] * |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
I never fold KK early in a sng - never.
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
Consider this hand next time you want to fold KK preflop. This was from a $55. Sucks that I lost though.
***** Hand History for Game 2972657227 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17095588 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, November 03, 01:38:49 EDT 2005 Table Table 68031 (Real Money) Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 1: Deceptikon ( $970 ) Seat 9: valorous ( $1380 ) Seat 6: ILIKESCOTCH2 ( $390 ) Seat 5: yeedogger ( $1255 ) Seat 4: empireny ( $2942 ) Seat 3: grizabe ( $1130 ) Seat 2: OreoMonster ( $835 ) Seat 10: accentprpl5 ( $1098 ) Trny:17095588 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to yeedogger [ Kh Kc ] ILIKESCOTCH2 folds. valorous is all-In. accentprpl5 folds. Deceptikon is all-In. OreoMonster is all-In. grizabe folds. empireny folds. yeedogger is all-In. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 4d, 3d ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ] ** Dealing River ** [ 3s ] yeedogger shows [ Kh, Kc ] two pairs, kings and threes. valorous shows [ Td, Tc ] two pairs, tens and threes. Deceptikon shows [ Kd, Ac ] a straight, ace to five. OreoMonster shows [ Jd, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and threes. valorous wins 125 chips from side pot #3 with two pairs, tens and threes. yeedogger wins 570 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, kings and threes. Deceptikon wins 405 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, ace to five. Deceptikon wins 3390 chips from the main pot with a straight, ace to five. |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
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Consider this hand next time you want to fold KK preflop. This was from a $55. Sucks that I lost though. [/ QUOTE ] You missed my point. The micro-reraise gave me the read to be able to put him on AA/KK. Your HH is completely different. |
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Re: Folding Kings in Level 1
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NickyOD folds. [/ QUOTE ] WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG |
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