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Old 11-15-2005, 06:57 PM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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Default WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

History : I have played about 15 hours of live 10K buy-in tournaments with Steve in the last 2 months. He is tight-solid, doesnt do anything too special but seems like he uses his image (tight) every once and a while and has a clue about what he is doing. His recent results are pretty good... Brechers Hendon Page He views me as tight-aggressive and I think atleast good. He has seen me build chips whenever I have been at his table. Also something interesting is that after 15 hours of play at the same table (most from day 2 of the USPC) we have never went to the showdown against eachother from what I remember.

THE HAND :

Blinds 100-200. Steves stack - 13K...My stack - 21K

Steve raises to 450 in EP (this is a normal raise variation for him early with no antes and could just as easily be KQs,77 as AA...also he seems to raise more in EP than LP which is interesting and might really work for him if noone catches on). I call in the SB with 88, BB folds HU.

FLOP 9-8-2 rainbow.

I lead for 525. He calls.

TURN (Q) 9-8-2...I think it completes the rainbow but not sure.

I lead for 1025, Steve makes it 3000 to go leaving him with about 8500 behind. Whats my plan? Did I play it well up to this point? Any alternate lines work better?
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:08 PM
Masquerade Masquerade is offline
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

I think he has to raise an overpair on the flop. The only two hands he could play like this are JT or 99 (both perfectly plausible as early raising hands). I think you have to lay it down and never, ever let him get an inkling that you'd fold such a strong hand to this betting pattern.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

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I think he has to raise an overpair on the flop

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That's just not true, he easily could smooth call AA here.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

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I think he has to raise an overpair on the flop

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That's just not true, he easily could smooth call AA here.

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I 100% agree. I really like your line and have a hard time not going to the felt.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

OK, so if u like the line so far and are prepared to go to the felt, how do u proceed...Up to u he raised, call or raise? If u call whats your river action?
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

He doesnt have to or nor will he always raise an overpair on the flop here for many reasons.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

I like the lead in the flop. In the turn I probably check-raise, but the bet is also ok. Now, how to extract all his chips, if you go all in and he's a good player, most probably he's folding AA,KK. I think I just call and then make a 4k bet in the river.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

That sounds like a pretty good line, I assume we are calling a raise for 4.5-5K more? If so doesnt that set up some risk-reward problems?
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

Bump to see what the morning crew thinks...value bet river? Is check-raise the turn the better option? ANything else?
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: WPT 10K hand vs Steve Brecher (Foxwoods)

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Bump to see what the morning crew thinks...value bet river? Is check-raise the turn the better option? ANything else?

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I like David's line. On a blank river, you will certainly get a call from AA/KK. On a semi-scary river (for him) like a T or J, you will lose less from 99/QQ.
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