I get fed up with people taking shots at me

Transference · #1 07-27-2005, 05:16 AM

You just know some poor play is going to follow a subject like that...

CO is like 80/30/2. Hes a nut.
MP is 70/7/.5. Loves to call call call, wont raise unless hes very strong and will occassionally take stabs with a pure bluff after missing.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, MP calls, CO 3-bets, Hero calls, SB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB folds, MP calls, CO folds.

Turn: (9 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: (9 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

spydog · #2 07-27-2005, 05:26 AM

I think the flop action is interesting. I'm not sure I like a raise when it could easily get 3-bet. I can't fold because the pot is so big. Yet, a raise could get a K to fold??

Just bet the turn and fold to a raise. Check behind on the river if you bet the turn. If you know he will almost always bluff at the river then checking the turn is fine because you have no fold equity after he coldcalls on the flop.

Stack · #3 07-27-2005, 05:28 AM

I think this is well done.

Fabian · #4 07-27-2005, 05:29 AM

Your calling station very likely has a flush draw. This makes the turn an easy bet. Your read on him (loves to call, won't raise without good hands) makes the turn an even easier bet, since you can comfortably fold to the checkraise.

maxpowers21 · #5 07-27-2005, 07:48 AM

You have to bet the turn, there's too much money in the pot to not bet and try to win it right there.

Plus your hand, if good, is vulnerable to tons of cards so you should value bet it when ahead here, rather then on the river when you lose that equity, ie. when he will fold a draw.

cartman · #6 07-27-2005, 07:58 AM

Not raising the psychopath's bet on the flop would be criminal in my opinion. Given your description of MP I would absolutely bet the turn because I can easily fold to a raise. He may still stab at the river with a busted draw and then you get paid 2BB!

Cartman

maxpowers21 · #7 07-27-2005, 08:04 AM

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Not raising the psychopath's bet on the flop would be criminal in my opinion. Given your description of MP I would absolutely bet the turn because I can easily fold to a raise. He may still stab at the river with a busted draw and then you get paid 2BB!

Cartman

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I'd call the turn check-raise, even if villian has the nut flush you are still getting odds.

Transference · #8 07-27-2005, 09:37 AM

I agree with all the comments on the turn. It's a pretty clear bet, I think I missed a few value bets in my last session from tilt. Embarassing to admit, but I get more out of posting poorly played hands.

I think I have to fold to a turn c/r from this guy.

If I do bet I assume he checks the river, how many value bet in this spot vs. taking the free showdown?

Transference · #9 07-27-2005, 09:41 AM

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If you know he will almost always bluff at the river then checking the turn is fine because you have no fold equity after he coldcalls on the flop.

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My thinking was essentialy along these lines. I was very sure I had about zero fold equity against this guy and that I would often get bet into on the river with a worse hand. I think its still a value bet given his range here.

PokerBob · #10 07-27-2005, 09:54 AM

bet the turn