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Old 10-30-2005, 07:39 PM
DrewOnTilt DrewOnTilt is offline
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Default Lesson in how not to play the flopped nut straight

It seems as if there are a number of new players on this board, myself included. I thought I would share a hand history lesson in how not to play the flopped nut straight with no redraws.

I REALLY got too frisky when I potted this flop with just the naked straight, and it cost me. Notice that not only was Foyan freerolling on me, but a third player was drawing to a full house, and I was going to end up with 1/3 of the pot at best since three of us flopped the same straight.

Come to think of it, this plays much like one of the example hands on Ribbo's site:

Misplayed flopped nut straight

$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Sunday, October 30, 16:59:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 65757 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: mystentor ( $7.27 )
Seat 2: DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight ( $30.37 )
Seat 3: hippy56 ( $16.02 )
Seat 5: euler__ ( $25.33 )
Seat 6: jbl654654 ( $36.61 )
Seat 7: onobono111 ( $7 )
Seat 8: Foyan ( $5.92 )
Seat 9: brian6876 ( $28.25 )
Seat 10: richardc123 ( $21.65 )
Seat 4: jev_in_mi ( $25 )
onobono111 posts small blind [$0.10].
Foyan posts big blind [$0.25].
jev_in_mi posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight [ Ts Js 9h As ]
brian6876 folds.
richardc123 calls [$0.25].
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight calls [$0.25].
hippy56 calls [$0.25].
jev_in_mi checks.
euler__ folds.
jbl654654 calls [$0.25].
onobono111 calls [$0.15].
Foyan checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Qd, Ad ]
onobono111 checks.
Foyan bets [$0.25].
richardc123 calls [$0.25].
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight raises [$2.70].
hippy56 calls [$2.70].
jev_in_mi folds.
jbl654654 folds.
onobono111 calls [$2.70].
Foyan is all-In.
richardc123 folds.
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight calls [$2.97].
hippy56 calls [$2.97].
>You have options at Table 65857 Table!.
onobono111 is all-In.
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight calls [$1.08].
hippy56 calls [$1.08].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight checks.
hippy56 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
>You have options at Table 64914 Table!.
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight bets [$5].
hippy56 calls [$5].
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight shows [ Ts, Js, 9h, As ] a straight, ten to ace.
hippy56 doesn't show [ Qs, 8d, 3s, Qh ] three of a kind, queens.
onobono111 shows [ 7s, Jh, Tc, Kc ] a straight, ten to ace.
Foyan shows [ Td, Kd, 3h, Jd ] a flush, ace high.
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight wins $9.50 from side pot #2 with a straight, ten to ace.
onobono111 wins $1.55 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
DonkeyWhoCan'tPlayADamnStraight wins $1.54 from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
Foyan wins $23.48 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
There was no qualifying low hand.
jev_in_mi has left the table.
brian6876 has left the table.
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:08 PM
Ribbo Ribbo is offline
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Default Re: Lesson in how not to play the flopped nut straight

And the really important paragraph from that page goes as follows:

In a situation like this, the way I would like to play the hand as the player with the straight is to check call the flop. Firstly my opponent might be freerolling me. Secondly he might have the same hand as me but with position, so if a scare card hits he can bet me off the pot. Thirdly, he might be bluffing, I want him putting money in if he is. Lastly, I want favourable odds. If I wait for the turn card, if it pairs the board or puts a flush on, I can fold having committed not many chips. If no scare cards hit, I can bet the pot or possibly check raise, ensuring with one card to come, my chances of winning increases significantly and that the money went in, with me ahead statistically.
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