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Old 08-13-2004, 01:26 AM
Dan Mezick Dan Mezick is offline
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Default Why Poker. Why Now?

Poker certainly has its virtues. But until quite recently, explaining poker’s profound greatness to casual observers was difficult-- at best. Suddenly, everyone (and their mother) seems not just interested, but downright fascinated with the game of no-limit tournament poker.

We could all point to the WPT and say “that’s the reason” and certainly the WPT show is innovative and influential. Yet a TV show dies an ugly death without a steady audience, and that is what the WPT show has generated- a steady and growing, huge audience.

Now, it’s natural to ask: why?

You can’t just say it’s the format, or the prize money, or the “whatever” of the WPT show, because even the WSOP stuff on ESPN is experiencing a renaissance of audience interest. WSOP poker on TV is not a new concept, and certainly the hole-card camera is interesting, but does not fully explain poker’s sudden “major mindshare” in the American psyche.

In some kind of very basic way, tournament poker suddenly appeals to a very wide audience. What gives here?

I believe poker will remain popular for much, much longer than observers expect. As a matter of fact, I suspect poker’s popularity is just getting started.

Many observers think quite the opposite—that we are in a “poker bubble” and the growth absolutely has to slow, taper off, etc.

I can see the contrarian logic of that conclusion, and that position.

Indeed, in a very real sense, the “poker bubble” school of thought has become the orthodox, conventional wisdom. As far as I can tell, not many observers are making hugely optimistic guesses about poker’s future growth. For example, I have not read too many observers (read: “none”) going out on a limb and saying that they expect the WSOP 10K NLHE event to get 3000+ players in 2005. This would represent about 100% growth over 2004. If it happens, it will be the 3rd running year of 100% growth in that event’s participation.

I’m interested in hearing from other observers who also think poker will continue to enjoy a 80, 90, or 100 percent growth rate in the coming years.

And specifically, why.
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Old 08-13-2004, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

for me it was ESPN showing the WSOP 8 times a day on ESPN and ESPN2. then a few friends of mine starting playing and we all learned how to play, bought some books, and watched tv/rounders.

maybe poker was never given a chance before. it was the first time it has been aired on TV like this. that has to be a huge reason. it was so interesting because many people havent seen it before. anyway i cant stand the WSOP episodes this year lol. i hope the main event is better than these all in hands of FTs. anything on fox sports net blows away WPT or WSOP. we actually get to see them play poker, but i bet if someone showed me that show last year i wouldnt like it at all because i didnt get to see any showdowns or all ins lol

if it wasnt for ESPN or travel channel or even celebrity poker on bravo i doubt i would know about it or any of the other 10 million people that just started playing. i read some article on pokerpages that phil ivey predicted this NLHE blow up in 2001. hes a freind of paul darden and told darden to learn NLHE from stud because it is going to explode. pretty good prediction by him lol
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Old 08-13-2004, 09:39 AM
James Boston James Boston is offline
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

Poker appeals to different personality types. It still maintains some of the old school lure that is perpetuated by movies like Rounders. It also appeals to appeals to the crowd who put down their Magic: The Gathering cards for the 52 card deck. It's a very equal opportunity game.
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Old 08-13-2004, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

Ivey told Darden that "Women Love the ALL-IN" and you just can't do that enough in stud. Maybe Darden laerned NHE because the biggest game (WSOP championship) plays that game and Darden wanted to become a champion?
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Old 08-13-2004, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

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For example, I have not read too many observers (read: “none”) going out on a limb and saying that they expect the WSOP 10K NLHE event to get 3000+ players in 2005. This would represent about 100% growth over 2004. If it happens, it will be the 3rd running year of 100% growth in that event’s participation.

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I doubt that I qualify as much of an observer, but I predict over 3000 players for the 2005 WSOP $10,000 NLHE event. Probably way over 3000.

Also, weren't there like 2500 entrants in 2004, making 3000 entrants in 2005 a mere 20% increase?
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Old 08-13-2004, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

Poker is the ultimate reality TV show for many people, instead of eating bugs or living in a house with a bunch of psychos poker is just some guys playing a game.

People watch the WPT and they see the prize pools and they think, I can play like that. They see Moneymaker win the WSOP and think, wow if some guy from tennesse can win, why can't I.

In a society fascenated with anything "reality", poker was just kind of in the right place at the right time.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

Three simple things have put us where we are now:

Rounders
ESPN
Hole-Card Camera <--- This is of course the biggy.

Normal people can't stand to watch poker, but throw in the Hole card camera and they are fixated. People love watching other people make mistakes. It makes them feel better about themselves. Without the hole card camera, they just think...."Well, of course he/she folded..they are professional card player...they probably had 72o." But when they see them lay down QQ to a T8o bluff...now you got something.

I really don't think it is anything more indepth or complicated than these things.

And of course the one thing that sealed the deal was Chris Moneymaker. Anytime someone sees Joe blow hitting it big you are immediately going to rope in some major crowds.

It is really just a freak occurence of some small things happening with perfect timing. If your into conspiracies then the Moneymaker thing is all for you.....

I mean come on, what would Texas Hold'em need to push it over the edge. What if a guy won the World Series that just started playing (relative terms), was doing it at home from the internet, very little live table experience....yeah but what would we name him....How about Moneymaker? No, that's too over the top. America loves over the top. You couldn't have written a better movie script.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:29 PM
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Default Dude this is craziness

I taught my nine year old brother how to play poker on july 6th. then after a month of the wsop being on tv and all my dad finds out that like 4 or 5 kids on my bros soccer team play poker. little nine year olds. what is happening?
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

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Hole-Card Camera <--- This is of course the biggy.

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Awesome point. Watching old poker broadcasts without knowing the hole cards is incredibly boring.
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Why Poker. Why Now?

Won't last.

Casino's and TV will provide more and more content that's indistinguishible to the average person from poker and we'll all be bitching about how the World Go Fish Tour is getting all the ratings and all the fish are playing "All in challange!" with a 9% house edge on the casino floor.
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