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Old 12-11-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default BB idiot end of str8 - standard fold? or weak tight?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($25.85)
MP1 ($74.85)
MP2 (Villain)/ ($6.15)
CO ($24)
Button ($29.25)
SB ($5.75)
Hero ($24.75)
UTG ($9.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 (Villain)/ calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Villain checks.

Turn: ($1.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to $1.5</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3.50

new at table so no reads.

is this standard play - or should I be calling down with any straight?
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: BB idiot end of str8 - standard fold? or weak tight?

Do you believe there is a 20% chance or more that he does NOT have the Q? That mini-raise is awfully suspicious. If he was trying to protect the made straight wouldn't he have bet more? With that flop there is a flush draw out there, multiple ways for a reasonable player to have made two pair, and set possibility. All of these you are ahead of. An argument could be made that not only should you have not folded, but that you should have re-raised the turn.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: BB idiot end of str8 - standard fold? or weak tight?

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Do you believe there is a 20% chance or more that he does NOT have the Q? That mini-raise is awfully suspicious. If he was trying to protect the made straight wouldn't he have bet more? With that flop there is a flush draw out there, multiple ways for a reasonable player to have made two pair, and set possibility. All of these you are ahead of. An argument could be made that not only should you have not folded, but that you should have re-raised the turn.

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I think this new argument would be a pretty horrible one frankly, barring a specific read that is.

Donks don't bet proper amount at small stakes nl, that why they're donks. They're not looking to protect their hands.

In terms of your percentages, I'm not even sure what you mean by your 20% figure, as you would have to pay off another bigger bet on the river to find out if your opponent has a queen.

Reraising is only good if you know your opponent is just [censored] around and will give up at any resistance.

This is a good fold IMHO.
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: BB idiot end of str8 - standard fold? or weak tight?

This is not a fold, Villain's line does resemble a straight or flush, but I expect to see two pair here plenty. He is almost all in, and the pot bet on the end makes me think he has an inkling of how to play. I call this, but don't reraise it without at least some good pt stats, a read is requsite to get aggressive on the end.

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Old 12-11-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: BB idiot end of str8 - standard fold? or weak tight?

looks good to me. Even if you are ahead right now, there are like a million scare cards on the river.
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