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Old 09-13-2004, 11:31 AM
Aequitas58 Aequitas58 is offline
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Default Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

Atlantic City B/M weekend NL $1/2 game, Min buyin=$60, Max=$300. Cashed in for $150, which was "won" money from the previous day's session. Here's how the hand went down.

I'm in LP with KK. Early position player, "JUST SAT DOWN" calls $2 BB. Mid position player, "EXTREMELY LOOSE", makes it $10. Folded to me, I raise to $35. JUST SAT DOWN calls $33. EXTREMELY LOOSE folds (DAMN! He's the one I wanted!)

Flop: 8c 9c 3h.

JUST SAT DOWN bets $15. I raise all-in (approx $118).
Called.
"You probably have me beat," he says.
"I only have Kings."
"Well, you're winning, but I have outs."
"Flush Draw?"
"No."

Turn: [8c 9c 3h] 9s

River: [8c 9c 3h 9s] 8 or 3 (two pair on board).

Flips his 9 and apologizes.
"Sorry man - I thought you were bluffing."

So... I might have done one of two things wrong. (Or both):
(1) My raise to $35 wasn't enough. I think it was, considering that I wanted to isolate Mr. Loose and have him pay me off. I didn't expect EP player to call, but when he did, I didn't mind, I knew I was winning at this point.

(2) My all-in bet was probably way to much, and looking back, it screams: I'm buying the pot. But, with the flush possibility on board, I wanted to destroy his pot odds in calling. With top pair, 9's, he called with NO hesitation. When he called, I thought he definitely hit a set.

Q9o. Nice. This adds to my theory that online poker is RIGGED! NOTE: This hand took place in a B/M casino.

Post your comments on my horrible play. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2004, 11:48 AM
GimmeDaWatch GimmeDaWatch is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

Are you joking or being serious, I cant really tell? You did nothing wrong, your opponent is terrible and he drew out on you, end of story.


P.S. Your all-in raise is fine, its maybe a little more than a pot-sized raise, and if it screams "Im buying the pot" all the better, you want weaker hands to call. You will win this hand 80% of the time.
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Old 09-13-2004, 02:32 PM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

"it screams i'm buying the pot"

If I could convince someone with top pair that I'm trying to buy the pot when I actually have an overpair, I'd raise all-in every time. I would have raised less, just to keep him in. Get one of those tracking chips and place it on him.
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Old 09-13-2004, 03:36 PM
Wayfare Wayfare is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

You played fine, don't post bad beat stories because people either:

1: Are happy you lost
2: Don't care.

You owe me $1

This is b/c the bad beat police seem to be on vacation.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Aequitas58 Aequitas58 is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

I thought I played it fine ... just wanted some thoughts on the raises and how much they were.

Owe you a dollar, huh? Sign up a new account with PartyPoker with my referral link, and I'll wire transfer you the buck. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:48 PM
Tagus Tagus is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

I personally don't think you played the hand well at all. It only would have been a good play if you had known what he had, and if you had known he'd be dumb enough to make such a bad bet. You knew neither. My thinking in the situation would have been:

He probably has a pocket pair or over cards. That's why he called my large pre-flop raise. The only way he's going to call an all in bet is if:

A) He's matched up trips on the flop
B) He's a retard (which turned out to be the case)

Otherwise he's going to fold.

You put yourself in a lose/lose situation. You either lose your entire stack, or risk your entire stack to win a pot that could have been bigger with moderate-sized raises and bets.
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:04 PM
willie willie is offline
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i have out!

thats what one of the dem dare teeeveee announcers said about a poker hand....lets see, i got me 2 9s and 3 queens in that deck somewhere! DADDY NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF SHOES!
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:24 PM
Wayfare Wayfare is offline
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Default Re: Hand Critique: KK v. Q9o

He has 6 outs. This is not insignificant. He will spike like 20% of the time yes?

6/44 (approx) x 2

Of course, he won't win every time he spikes, but I am just saying its not shocking when he does win.
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