Ak whiffed

KingDan · #1 06-03-2005, 05:05 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t757)
MP1 (t620)
MP2 (t760)
MP3 (t585)
CO (t320)
Button (t858)
SB (t815)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t1690)
UTG+1 (t820)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 5 folds, Button calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t100, UTG+1 calls t70, Button folds.

Flop: (t245) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG+1 raises to t325, Hero folds.

smcannon · #2 06-03-2005, 05:07 PM

Good fold.

NYCNative · #3 06-03-2005, 05:16 PM

Raised enough to get one caller, continuation bet on the miss and fold to the raise. Textbook.

KingDan · #4 06-03-2005, 05:18 PM

I assumed it was standard. Didn't want to cost myself money on a play I assumed was standard, since this situation comes up a lot.

Unarmed · #5 06-03-2005, 05:22 PM

I'm not going to argue with the C-Betting crew too much, but betting this flop opens you up to a semi-bluff raise from the FD, and can have you laying down the best hand as a result.

I'd check the flop. I check lots of flops with a whiffed AK. It's great fun. I showed down a whiffed AK against a whiffed AQ last night. Good times. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

NYCNative · #6 06-03-2005, 06:01 PM

All I know is that MANY a time, my line looked like this:

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t757)
MP1 (t620)
MP2 (t760)
MP3 (t585)
CO (t320)
Button (t858)
SB (t815)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t1690)
UTG+1 (t820)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 5 folds, Button calls t30, 1 fold, Hero raises to t100, UTG+1 calls t70, Button folds.

Flop: (t245) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG+1 folds.

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Unarmed · #7 06-03-2005, 06:26 PM

And in that case, Villain probably had AT.
One of these days I'm going to write a huge post on why c-betting (while great against weak ABC players) is generally a pretty bad idea against loose calling stations.

psyduck · #8 06-03-2005, 06:28 PM

I usually like to check here as well, and call a smallish bet (maybe 1/3 of the pot). Is this goot? You have two overcards on a raggy flop and a backdoor. Any other bigger bet from villain = me fold

BDarch · #9 06-03-2005, 06:31 PM

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And in that case, Villain probably had AT.
One of these days I'm going to write a huge post on why c-betting (while great against weak ABC players) is generally a pretty bad idea against loose calling stations.

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I would like to see your opinions on this matter because I always see you arguing against continuation bets and would like to know all your reasoning.

NYCNative · #10 06-03-2005, 06:44 PM

My experience is that raise-check is a huge sign of weakness that screams, "Please bet now and I will fold like a paper napkin."