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($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
4th game of tourney. In a preceeding hand UTG raised and re-re-raised all-In on the flop with second pair no kicker and won with a backdoor flush.
When should I be betting? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx MP3 (t660) Button (t740) Hero (t890) UTG (t1875) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t25, UTG calls t25. Flop: (t170) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t30</font>, MP3 calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero calls t30. Turn: (t290) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t65</font>, Button calls t65, Hero calls t65, UTG folds. River: (t485) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t75</font>, Hero calls t75, MP3 folds. Final Pot: t635 Qwerty |
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Re: ($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
my first comment on a hand, so please be gentle.
I'd fold pre-flop... even if you do hit your top or mid pair, there's a good chance you're dominated. After that, I don't see why you'd play a second pair when there are 3 clubs on the flop - there's a good chance you're drawing dead, even if you do hit a second pair or trips. There are better opportunities, in my view, to bet your money. |
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Re: ($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
Pre-flop:
In the three preceeding games, UTG always called pre-flop, and there where no raises pre-flop. I am aiming for his stack... In a normal situation, I am often folding here. Top or mid pair: Mid pair I fold. Top pair I play prudently -- but I call an UTG All-In if the other players fold. Post flop, I am drawing to second nut flush or 2 pair. Given the mini-bets, I cant fold. |
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Re: ($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
Some might say it's too passive, but I'm fine with how you played it. I don't see how you can raise on any street, given that a re-raise would be horrible news. The only thing I would have said is to fold pre-flop, but given your read, a call is understandable.
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Re: ($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
i dont have any real complaints here. forget about what he had or didnt have, you dont have a flush and if at any point you get raised or reraised you are probably beaten. the key here i think is that thier small bets usually mean one of two thing: a. they have very little. in this case if you play strongly they will likely fold. b. they have a better hand than you and a very strong hand. in which case take the odds and try to show down a winner.
Pat |
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Re: ($10+1) mid-Pair + draw played really passively
I don't see how you can fold on any street to such small bets and you can't really raise either because a re-raise shuts you out of the pot
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Results
Thank you all for your comments.
What do you think of a value bet on the river? Results: I win the pot when MP shows 8d As |
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