Simple A9s hand - need a reality check

Akimka · #1 01-28-2005, 12:17 PM

Villian is tight and passive (?). Only 10 hands for him so far.
0 raises, VPIP 14...

Turn call - good or bad?
River fold?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

amirpc · #2 01-28-2005, 12:18 PM

I muck the turn.

MyssGuy · #3 01-28-2005, 12:20 PM

Muck the turn. Personally, muck pre-flop at a relatively tight 2/4 table.

bcunha · #4 01-28-2005, 12:27 PM

Muck the turn. You don't have immediate pot odds to chase any ace or any 9, which may not always be the best hand, especially when facing such aggression.

profpeebody · #5 01-28-2005, 01:00 PM

I would fold the hand preflop from that position unless you know something specific about the table. With 4 people acting behind you, you are easily domoniated by a better Ace or pocket pair leaving only 1 overcard. Toss it in the muck

limitholdemshark · #6 01-28-2005, 01:20 PM

this is a simple hand
u need 2 fold preflop.why?ur hand is a drawing hand.if ur raise is 3bet u r way behind(in most situations).ur raise will most of the time show a small profit (everyone folds or bb defends and then folds the flop or a large loss(ur 3bet and u catch a piece of the flop and call down 2 the river).u have nothing in the pot preflop throw the hand away.remember,position is everything.if u r the co or button thats a different story if ur first in now u have a very good hand with little chance of being 3bet.now raise bcause the chance of losing alot is substantialy less.in poker the key to winning is to limit ur losses and to maximise ur winnings

good luck

the shark

adamstewart · #7 01-28-2005, 01:26 PM

PREFLOP: Good raise. Don't listen to those who are telling you to fold A,9s from middle position.

FLOP: Good lead out. Most of the time, you'll pick up the pot right there heads-up. When he check-raises you, you should consider folding (because you're only getting about 7.5:1 for your two overcards...which won't be good 100% of the time).

TURN: Definitely fold here. That was a bad call by you. You don't have near the odds you require to call.

Adam

adamstewart · #8 01-28-2005, 01:30 PM

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this is a simple hand
u need 2 fold preflop.why?ur hand is a drawing hand.if ur raise is 3bet u r way behind(in most situations).ur raise will most of the time show a small profit (everyone folds or bb defends and then folds the flop or a large loss(ur 3bet and u catch a piece of the flop and call down 2 the river).u have nothing in the pot preflop throw the hand away.remember,position is everything.if u r the co or button thats a different story if ur first in now u have a very good hand with little chance of being 3bet.now raise bcause the chance of losing alot is substantialy less.in poker the key to winning is to limit ur losses and to maximise ur winnings

good luck

the shark

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I'm wondering how you play A,Ts from early position(s)???

Adam

Joe Tall · #9 01-28-2005, 01:31 PM

u need 2 fold preflop.why?ur hand is a drawing hand.

This is HORRIBLE advice. Ace high is not a drawing hand.

Again, welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

adamstewart · #10 01-28-2005, 01:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
u need 2 fold preflop.why?ur hand is a drawing hand.

This is HORRIBLE advice. Ace high is not a drawing hand.

Again, welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

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YES!!!!! i love it.

Adam