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Typical online overpair OOP scenario
This comes up all the time and it’s a frustrating situation for me…….
2-4, 400 effective stacks. No reads ( I just sat down) 3 limpers including small blind and I make it 20 from BIG blind. SB folds and the other two call. ($64 in pot) flop: 7d6d2s I lead for $50, minraise by first limper, fold….. What’s you’re standard line in this type of situation? EDIT....By the way.....My Hand is QdQc |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
How high your overpair is matters a lot. A lot of guys will min-raise with 88-99 here as well as a diamond draw or a set. With JJ+ I usually feel pretty good about reraising.
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
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How high your overpair is matters a lot. A lot of guys will min-raise with 88-99 here as well as a diamond draw or a set. With JJ+ I usually feel pretty good about reraising. [/ QUOTE ] Sry...my hand was QdQc (i added that to the original post) I'm always inclined to reraise here but that effectively pot commits me. I get all the chips in and i'm against a set a fairly high percentage of the time....Any guesses to how often random villian has a set? |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
With that action? More than 50%.
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
Don't 3bet this, that is only folding hands that you beat. If you think you are good, call and check-raise all in on the turn.
However, you should have raised this more preflop, with 3 limpers you have to at least make this 30, especially OOP. As played i'm probably folding as the min-raising villan still has a player to act after him and doesn't seem all that concerned, he wants money in the pot with his set. |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
Player dependant. Usually fold and suspect set with that action. $200 NL players are usually pretty good at making it obvious they have sets. Sometimes I call and look at turn, the board is draw heavy here, Villain could be getting tricky with good draw?
A kinda want to 3-bet to decide what is going on, but this action is a set too often in the games I play in, so I don't. I also don't want to call and get bluffed out by a smaller overpair or a draw, etc. |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
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Player dependant. Usually fold and suspect set with that action. $200 NL players are usually pretty good at making it obvious they have sets. Sometimes I call and look at turn, the board is draw heavy here, Villain could be getting tricky with good draw? A kinda want to 3-bet to decide what is going on, but this action is a set too often in the games I play in, so I don't. I also don't want to call and get bluffed out by a smaller overpair or a draw, etc. [/ QUOTE ] I used to do the call and look at the turn line, but there are very few cards that come on the turn that change anything. I guess a A or K make it easier to fold and a Q make it easy to CR allin but if u call this and make any meaningful raise on the turn u have most of ur stack in. |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
in 6 max, I push normally, or call to get in on the turn, in full ring i just fold without a read.
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
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in 6 max, I push normally, or call to get in on the turn, in full ring i just fold without a read. [/ QUOTE ] So you fold out the hands you beat and get called by hands that beat you? What's the point? Do you really think that villan would do this with a draw in a pot this size? Either he's drawing to a two outer or your are. |
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Re: Typical online overpair OOP scenario
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So you fold out the hands you beat and get called by hands that beat you? What's the point? Do you really think that villan would do this with a draw in a pot this size? Either he's drawing to a two outer or your are. [/ QUOTE ] I'd have to disagree with this....If villian does not have a set a big draw is a strong possibility. Minraising a big draw is a bad play in this spot but lot's of people at this level play subpar.....And often times that draw will check behind on the turn and villian gets a cheap shot at you. This is not a way ahead or way behind situation because the board is extremely draw heavy. |
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