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2 pocket pairs folds? good or bad
Here are two folds that I made last night with small to mid PP late in the tourney, that I really think I should have called on. Wanted your opinions.
This is an area of my game that I struggle with - small to mid pairs out of position or facing a raise. My default play is to fold, but now thinking that may be too weak tight. First hand -- 88 on the button, facing an UTG raise. folds to me, I fold too. FullTiltPoker Game #302643386: $14,000 Guarantee (1843039), Table 58 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:19:29 ET - 2005/11/22 Seat 1: JeffJ_ (20,060) Seat 2: Abyyss (4,950) Seat 3: JediMyndTrik (2,939) Seat 4: HERO (10,225) Seat 5: BUTTON (10,060) Seat 6: professor666 (4,835) Seat 8: FirthBrookhaven (9,856) Seat 9: SuicideKinq (8,935) JeffJ_ antes 50 Abyyss antes 50 JediMyndTrik antes 50 HERO antes 50 TJ Ungar antes 50 professor666 antes 50 FirthBrookhaven antes 50 SuicideKinq antes 50 professor666 posts the small blind of 250 FirthBrookhaven posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [8s 8c] SuicideKinq raises to 1,200 JeffJ_ folds Abyyss folds JediMyndTrik folds HERO folds BUTTON calls 1,200 professor666 folds FirthBrookhaven calls 700 Second hand Later in the tourney. In the money, but barely. Final 55 or so, I am in like 47th spot. FullTiltPoker Game #302674891: $14,000 Guarantee (1843039), Table 7 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:39:54 ET - 2005/11/22 Seat 1: FirthBrookhaven (37,975) Seat 2: Triweasel (22,899) Seat 3: Yo_Dude (4,256) Seat 4: Achillies1984 (6,565) Seat 5: RYRERO (14,588) Seat 6: HERO(8,875) Seat 7: DARTHZYDRUNAS (11,287) Seat 8: MrRedskin25 (14,562) Seat 9: ILS (20,599) FirthBrookhaven antes 100 Triweasel antes 100 Yo_Dude antes 100 Achillies1984 antes 100 RYRERO antes 100 HERO antes 100 DARTHZYDRUNAS antes 100 MrRedskin25 antes 100 ILS antes 100 Achillies1984 posts the small blind of 400 RYRERO posts the big blind of 800 FirthBrookhaven: nh The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Trips013 [3c 3s] I folded UTG. Should I have pushed all in? Is calling looking for a set out of the question with my M at 4? |
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Re: 2 pocket pairs folds? good or bad
I definitely at least call the 88, maybe reraise depending on your read on this guy.
I don't mind mucking the 33. |
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Re: 2 pocket pairs folds? good or bad
Hand 1: Tricky for sure. 50% call 50% fold there for me.
Hand 2: I got chips so a fold isn't bad. If I push I will be glad if I will be facing a coinflip. I muck this. |
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Re: 2 pocket pairs folds? good or bad
Both folds are fine. Arguments could be made for a call or push 88 depending upon your read of UTG and the blinds. But against an unknown in that spot I muck too. 33 is definitely a fold IMO; particularly just into the money where the chips usually fly....
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Re: 2 pocket pairs folds? good or bad
Thanks all. I kind of felt that the 33 was correct, but the 88 was a bit suspect. Calling just feels so weak there...
Of course, on both of these I would have flopped sets. On the 88 hand, I would have had an over set to 444, and another guy had AA. I Would have quaded up to 5 place in the tourney! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] I know, I know, results don't matter, good decisions do... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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