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Any way to lay down KK preflop?
I have been burned many times with KK versus AA preflop. When i'm playing small stakes I get players going all in on a wide spectrum of hands so it is hard to gauge what people have. In a recent hand i had a player raise before me, i go over the top, then he pushes for quite a bit more. This to me looks a lot like AA but because im playing small stakes this sometimes could be anything like KQ or 99. Has anyone been able to lay down KK preflop at small stakes?
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
[ QUOTE ]
I have been burned many times with KK versus AA preflop. When i'm playing small stakes I get players going all in on a wide spectrum of hands so it is hard to gauge what people have. In a recent hand i had a player raise before me, i go over the top, then he pushes for quite a bit more. This to me looks a lot like AA but because im playing small stakes this sometimes could be anything like KQ or 99. Has anyone been able to lay down KK preflop at small stakes? [/ QUOTE ] Depends on the player your up against and the situation. KK runs into AA 1/17th of the time. |
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
I'm never laying down KK in a small stakes heads up situation unless I have a strong, strong read on the player.
(The only people I have a read this strong on are some of my local live home game buddies.) |
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
The only way I lay this down is with an amazing read or I've built my stack way up and villians stack could do major damage to mine. I usually leave the table if I get up that high however.
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
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Any way to lay down KK preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you throw your cards face down in the middle of the table. In all seriousness though, I think I've only folded KK pre-flop once and it was very deepstacked, multiway against a lot of aggression. |
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
Why would you leave a table that doubled you up...?
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
ha ha ha
YES but NO [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Empire $50nl 10 max I reraise EP in MP with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] BB goes all in, EP folds, I muse, stew, actually think about this thread, check his stats, 205 handss played ZERO raised....... guess what I call Villain has A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and takes away my stack. ho ho. If ever a time to lay down KK this was it. |
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
The only time I ever did it was against a similar player...it was funny watching 88 beat him too.
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
This is the only time i have ever layed down kings. I think most of the time it is incorrect to fold, but sometimes you may have to think about it a bit more. Or maybe im just giving the 25NL players too much respect..
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB (poster) calls $6.70 (All-In), <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $15</font>, Button folds. Flop: ($27.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Turn: ($27.05) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> River: ($27.05) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $27.05 SB has As Ac (one pair, aces). MP2 has Qc Qs (one pair, queens). Outcome: SB wins $18.40. MP2 wins $8.65. </font> |
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Re: Any way to lay down KK preflop?
You mean like in a hand like last night(3rd hand at table).
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP2 ($42.55) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.75)</font> CO ($11.25) Button ($42.40) SB ($11.50) BB ($32.95) <font color="#C00000">UTG ($11.95)</font> <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($22.10)</font> UTG+2 ($52.20) MP1 ($4.75) Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $0.69</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $11.70 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $21.41 (All-In), Hero calls $23.25 (All-In), Button folds. Flop: ($60.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font> Turn: ($60.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font> River: ($60.65) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $60.65 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG has 6s Qs (one pair, queens). UTG+1 has Ac Ah (three of a kind, aces). Hero has Kh Ks (one pair, kings). Outcome: UTG+1 wins $57.65. Hero wins $2.65. </font> At low limits the answer is no, although I had a decent feeling I may be behind to UTG+1. People push pre-flop with all sorts of donk ass hands at this level. |
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