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Calling down with AK
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The villain is tight-aggressive according to PT, but that's from datamining and so I don't have a personal read of him (yet). He's 14.4%, 6.7% and 2.8 over 270+ hands. I figure he could be checkraising for many reasons here, including to push me off my hand with a strong draw. Trying to find more places where I should see a showdown, what do you think? Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (6.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 8.25 BB P.S. this was a 10-handed table that had a lot of players coming and going, with some real donks to keep it worthwhile. |
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Re: Calling down with AK
Since the turn is not a T,Q,K,A or club, I think I'm folding.
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Re: Calling down with AK
I'd worry about the hands a TAG is CRing you with on this flop. Medium Pairs, Jacks, flush draws and you only beat the flush draws.
If I'm you here I'm probably folding the turn. Or I might 3 bet the flop and see how he responds. Once you've called on the turn I think you have to call the river too. |
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Re: Calling down with AK
looks fine to me. sometimes you get screwed, sometimes you don't. but straight and flush draws play like this too. and FWIW: either draw is betting this turned scare card.
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Re: Calling down with AK
The only non-made hand the Villian can have is the flush draw, it's unlikely given the villians stats that he called with any hand that could have flopped a straight draw. I think it's much more likely the Villian has a made hand here and not a draw.
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Re: Calling down with AK
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Once you've called on the turn I think you have to call the river too. [/ QUOTE ] Calling the turn and folding the river is the worst possible way to play it, I think. |
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Re: Calling down with AK
I don't quite understand why you would even bother calling the turn. At best, each of your overcards is worth about 1.5 outs each. Actually, they're worth even less because a K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] gives a possible flush to Villian and an A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] gives Villian a different (and more likely) flush. Yes, his aggression could be a bluff or a semi-bluff, but on the turn is pot odds of 4.25 to 1 worth it? You really would need 14.3 outs to call, and I think you have less than 3.
Take this all with a grain of salt; you're a helluva lot more experienced than I am, and I could easily be wrong. |
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Re: Calling down with AK
It isn't something you should do frequently, but only against specific opponents, i.e. those who play their draws aggressively. Therefore, I'm not calling on the basis of pot-odds, but on the odds that I have him beat when none of the obvious draws come in and I don't spike a pair + the odds that I suck out.
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Re: Calling down with AK
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If I'm you here I'm probably folding the turn. Or I might 3 bet the flop and see how he responds. [/ QUOTE ] I 3 bet. If he caps, or bets the turn, I fold. |
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Re: Calling down with AK
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It isn't something you should do frequently, but only against specific opponents, i.e. those who play their draws aggressively. Therefore, I'm not calling on the basis of pot-odds, but on the odds that I have him beat when none of the obvious draws come in and I don't spike a pair + the odds that I suck out. [/ QUOTE ] I understand. At this point, I don't think I'm good enough to be able to come to that conclusion on my own. If I had made this call now (at my present skill and understanding), it'd probably be because I wasn't thinking at all (or hit the wrong button). |
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