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Couple of folds... reasonable?
Hand 1. Villains are all loose, but not very aggressive preflop.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP calls, Button calls. Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls. Turn: (12 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds, BB calls, MP calls. River: (18 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP checks, Button checks. Final Pot: 18 BB Hand 2: MP is a solid player, UTG is a mega-donkey. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls. Flop: (12.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls. Turn: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, UTG calls. River: (17.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, UTG calls. Final Pot: 19.20 BB Hand 3: UTG is the same mega-donkey, SB seemed passive. Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls. River: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls. Final Pot: 11.50 BB |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
1. good though I don't cap preflop
2. good 3. I ahve a hard time folding there agianst someone who only *seems* passive |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
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good though I don't cap preflop [/ QUOTE ] Do you call, or fold? I was gonna call, but then I thought, fck it, cap for deception. |
#4
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
I call. out of position, see if someone else caps, check raise a nice flop. not that I don't like capping. I just like calling there
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
Hand 1
I don't know if I like capping against two these guys who are not very aggressive preflop w/ this hand. But I don't think it would be too bad either way. You gotta three bet the flop IMO and go from there. But the way you played it, I don't know what to do on the turn, folding does not seem aweful. But I did the same think a half hour ago to cost me a 13 BB pot so I am not sure. Hand 2 I like it. I would want to call down the mega donkey, but the other guy makes that impossible. Hand 3 How passive? I don't know, I would probably call one bet and hope for a to see a 7. But if you thought he was passive you did the right thing. If you had a stronger read on him being passive you should have folded the flop. These hands seemed pretty good. I only have a problem with how hand one played out. 2/3 seemed pretty good IMO. |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
yeah on the button i'd probably cap hand one, but in the SB i like i call against the passive guys.
But yeah the way the hand played out I like 3 betting the flop and probably calling down if someone pops you again on the turn (a fold could be ok however depending on what his AF was). |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
Hand 1: BB had KJo, Button had J9o. I folded a winner.
Hand 2: UTG had J-high, MP had QQ. Good fold, although I would have rivered them. Hand 3: SB had the fxxing 7. Folded another winner. I think I usually calldown in hand 3, but I went with my read and folded. And I usually 3-bet the flop in hand 1, but look at the button's action. He 3-bet preflop, then called two cold on the flop. Then he raised the turn! That's a monster 99% of the time. |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
I agree w/your analysis, but I almost always call down in hand 3, lots of players w/any pair will keep firing if you don't play back at them. what does everyone think about raising the flop in hand 3? my usual line is to raise flop.
I am interested to see if anyone calls down hand 1, I would fold there too. |
#9
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
1) I prolly fold this too. My read on Button is an overpair and your getting 16:2 + calls behind you to spike your 3.5 outter.
2) Good fold facing 2 back to you 3) I toss this on the flop. Sb betting into me is scary but its even worse when he's betting into a pf capper. The pf capper is sitting directly behind you who could raise and you could be caught for 2 sbs here. The K is very scary b/c if you are behind, you only have 2 outs. I toss it to the sbs bet and give him credit for a K when he bets into a pfr. |
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Re: Couple of folds... reasonable?
Hand 1 the fold looks fine. I assume you were waiting for a rag turn card to c/r the entire field instead of 3-betting the flop. If that was your plan then I play it the same.
The other two hands I play the same way as well. |
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