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can you find a fold here?
5-10 absolute, however I know the button very well and he knows me and is a very good, thinking player.
4 limpers and button raises, i call in SB with 77, everyone calls. flop is Q 3 7r. I bet, everyone calls. turn is J. I bet, 2 calls and button also calls. river is 10. I bet, folded to button who raises. Does he do this with ANY hand I can beat? |
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Re: can you find a fold here?
pay him off
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Re: can you find a fold here?
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I bet, folded to button who raises. Does he do this with ANY hand I can beat? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, any two pair. He had pot odds to limp PF with lots of speculative crap, so you could be up against QJ, QT, JT, Q7, or Q3. If he had QQ or JJ, he would have chosen to fatten up this pot on the flop or turn, since his raise wouldn't drive anybody away. The only thing that could have you beaten here is TT, and of the full range of possible hands in this situation, that's highly unlikely: remember, if he had TT, he still called a $10 bet on the turn with two overpairs on the board. YHIG; make it three. <font color="blue">Edit to say: Ooops; I forgot he didn't limp PF; he raised. That changes things. Cancel the Q7, the Q3, and the JT. He could still play this way with KK or AA, but if he's got big slick you're busted, and if he decided (for some reason) to slow down with QQ or JJ, you're dead. Don't make it three, but pay him off.</font> |
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Re: can you find a fold here?
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Does he do this with ANY hand I can beat? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Maybe he has QJs or QTs. The question is then should you 3-bet? I don't think so. I'd just call and see what he flips up. |
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Re: can you find a fold here?
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I bet, folded to button who raises. Does he do this with ANY hand I can beat? [/ QUOTE ] I think he might. It's hard to put him on something like AQ or KQ that you beat, since he would have raised earlier for sure with those. I'd think that AK would raise the flop with all of those callers, to try to maybe buy a free card, but he certainly could be check/calling with it. You'd think that AA or KK would find a raise in there somewhere, but maybe he wanted to keep the callers in? In the end though, I'm going with QTs as my final answer. That is the only holding for him that seems to make sense given the action. I think you have to call him down. Interesting hand reading exercise. |
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Re: can you find a fold here?
Pay him off, call. you will lose most of the time, but you could have some hands that play this way beat.
I would think JTs would be the best bet for the hand you beat, there were 4 limpers and he had button. With QTs or QJs, there would've been a turn raise. Also with AK that has you beat, wouldn't he raise flop for free card. |
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Re: can you find a fold here?
Anyone go for a c/r on the flop?
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Re: can you find a fold here?
a c/r is awful IMO. why would u (if u would)
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Re: can you find a fold here?
You are getting around 17:1. Call expecting to lose. Don't be slow to compliment button.
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Re: can you find a fold here?
I can't, but then again I can't really think of any hand he plays this way that you beat if you say that he is a good thinking player. I pay him off but don't like it.
SGS |
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