[BobboFitos]

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well point is, he's not a huge dog, but there's a good shot you're getting c/r allin by a better hand which you'll have to call

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4.5:1 isn't being a huge dog? It's irrelevant anyway, shouldn't you be happy if you bet half pot and get a call from a lone spade?

So your argument is that half pot sucks cause you'll most likely get CRAI by a better hand? Uh, alright, so obviously we aren't folding, right? So either jam all in, fold out drawing hand we WANT in, and get called by better hands.. or bet half pot, keep in A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] which is drawing incorrectly, and still lose to big hands?

I don't know, one of those seems slightly better, but then again you are a much better player than I.

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well said skeme