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Old 01-29-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: looking for a bigger edge

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but the turn card is going to increase hero's equity far more often than it will decrease hero's equity in a 3-way pot.

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I suspect that only 2,9 and A increase value of his hand assuming he doesn't know if they drawing to overcards or to straight or simply have pocket pair. All other cards decrease his valued, cards from T to K as well as 3 and 4 decrease his value a bit (3-5%) and 8 or 7 decrease his value greatly.

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Here's my hand ranges: feel free to modify them so I can re-run equity analysis.

SB: A9s, K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s-T8s, 98s-92s, 87s-85s, 76s-75s, 65s, A9o, K9o, Q9o, J9o, T9o, 87o, 76o-75o, 65o

BB: Just about any two suited (A7s-A2s, K9s-K4s, Q9s-Q4s, JTs-J2s, T9s-T2s, 98s-92s, 87s-82s, 76s-72s, 65s-62s, 54s-52s, 43s-42s, 32s).

Equity on the flop:

Hero - 44.3%
SB - 35.4%
BB - 20.3%

If the turn card is the J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero - 45.81%
SB - 36.438%
BB - 17.746%

If the turn card is the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero - 48.5%
SB - 36.46%
BB - 15.03%

If the turn card is the Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero - 47.9%
SB - 36.52%
BB - 15.517%

If the turn card is the T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero - 44.3%
SB - 37.98%
BB - 17.68%

If the turn card is the 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero - 28.091%
SB - 46.32%
BB - 25.58%

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So in all cases except the 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (which is obviously a bad card), Hero's equity goes up on the turn. I'm not surprised at this at all, actually; his equity isn't likely to get much higher, but it certainly is going up with most turn cards.

An additional benefit which people seem to forget is that if you raise the flop, it is more likely that regardless of the turn card, you will be checked to on the turn; consequently, even when a semi-scary card comes, you are generally going to be betting this card, and checkraised when you are behind.

However, when you call the flop (and the turn is a bad card), BB has no idea what your range of hands is: so the action, rather than going SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB checkraises, will often be SB bets, BB raises, Hero folds...

The second reason is one of the additional reasons I like calling the flop.

Rob
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