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Old 08-02-2005, 12:43 PM
reecelights reecelights is offline
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Default Re: This is when you apply the squeeze play.

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Well in Doyle Brunson's book he talks about this situation, about trying to catch something if a player is playing kings and aces and doesn't raise and you have a suited connector. He recommends just calling which is actually the play I would make.

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This play is illustrating a move outlined in Harrington on Hold 'Em. Doyle does recommend getting in cheap (limping with other limpers or calling minimal raises) with suited connectors in late position, but calling in this situation is borderline because of the early position raise.

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Possibly catch something then push, how if he is dead set on raising then 1500 is a nice number b/c its bigger than the pot but still not too much to where if he gets raised he can lay down the hand and still be in the tournament.

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1500 in NOT bigger than the pot. See my math above. There is 1950 in the pot when it gets to him. Betting 1500 is how you might play this if YOU had AA or KK in LP against a raise and limp. Build the pot, but don't chase out a caller. In this situation he is STEALING the pot and does not want callers.

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I understand stealing blinds is important and with people not defending the blinds you can try to steal but going all in with 76s is not a good way to make a living. Of course he didn't want to be called, but I'd doubt few hands would call his 1500 and not his all-in.

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Again, please see my math above. The is a significant difference between 1500 and 3400 in this situation.

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76s is a hand I want to see a flop with. Then I can break somebody especially with a big pair and what appears to be rags on the flop. You may think I'm a newbie but I still understand the game or poker. I also understand that guys with smaller chip stacks shouldn't bluff at pots b/c when they do they don't have the chips to force the ace 6 and other bad hands out. So please if you still think I'm wrong...tell me where...because I'm all about getting better and if you think I'm wrong then please show me why.

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I need to check the time stamps on the posts (it took me a while to compose mine and there may have been posts in between), but another poster has also already pointed out that 3400 (or whatever the push size is, I've forgotten) is a significant portion of the other two player's stacks. 1500 is almost a mandatory pot-odds call. In this particular situation, he would have been better calling with his hand than betting 1500. 1500 is going to get a push from the KK and then probably have to call because he is pot-committed (1950+1500+3400=6850 with 1900 to call, or 3.6-1 pot odds).

In short, I highly recommend reading Harrington on Hold 'Em so as to understand the basis of the OP. It will answer all of the questions in your most recent response.
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