Re: The ol\' river value bet type thread
i dont think many ppl are raising a J on the flop unless they are in tthe lag category.
what Q kicker do you beat. i guess Q9 QT.
i try to recognoze the strgnth of my hand and play accordingly (as miller teaches some top pairs are worth betting and raising and some are not).
if you were to 3 bet the flop and lead the turn, then he raises with his made flush ...you would pay only 2 big bets when you are way behind. by check raising you are gonna pay 3 big bets.
i also like to stay aggro throught the hand. so if you were to raise preflop and 3 bet the flop he is gonna need a nice hand to raise you on the expensive turn and river. this pressure saves me dough in the long run i believe.
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