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Old 08-06-2005, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: I Still Can\'t Do It : 77 UTG

<<The answer is simple: in this case the decision actually IS close. And you could be making a very big mistake if your read is off.>>

SSH, and other 2+2-related spots, espouse the "dont make a mistake that costs you the pot" theory. After all, losing 10BB is way worse than losing 1 BB, right?

Tilt considerations aside (and nothing ought to tilt you anyway, right?), I think this gets confused sometimes. Looking at it as a completely lost pot is generally results-oriented thinking. If your opponents range of hands gives you a 5% chance to win and the breakeven point is to call with a 4.5% chance, well, even if you folded the eventual winner, it's incorrect to say the mistake cost you the entire thereotical pot. And I definitely understand OP saying he's not happy just avoiding big and medium mistakes, especially if he is dead certain about a read.

Not exactly a direct response to the quote there... but it's what I thought of when I read it.

Other thought- even with a whole crowd calling, I still don't feel like I can discount AA/KK to completely impossible. Isn't the possibility the check-raiser has the other two sevens non-zero? And what about the 1/10000 chance that he just snapped and allowed himself to fantasize about a bluff to end all bluffs? There seem to be so many tiny factors that push this closer and closer to break even, or put another way, inconsequencial.

2nd
(Yes, they're somewhat random thoughts. please forgive me)
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