Me again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

In this example I muck it to a bet. You have what, bottom pair, 2 spades and JQo. There is nothign there that is going to get better.

There are only 2 more 4's in the deck, only 8% chance of hitting them. (If I got the calculation right!!!!)

You don't want to be putting any more into this pot. I loose more money from the blinds chasing a hand that I have partially hit the flop than anywhere else.