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Old 12-20-2003, 07:01 PM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Default Re: \"A Pair of Fours\" Again

Hi Mason,

I agree with your mode of thought here.

On the flop, our implied odds are very good provided if you are trying to draw to a set that is live an there isn't a pocket 8's or pocket 9's out there.

The turn bet is a must because the original preflop raiser didn't raise on the flop with his overcards and everyone else just called giving you extremely valuable information that they were all drawing. Most likely someone probably had an 8 in their hand and folded, and almost assurely no one had a 9.

River check is good because you can only be called if your beat or remotely check-raised bluffed.

I like to add a comment to the turn bet. It's a good one too because you have good position, information that everyone else could be drawing and your bet forces others out. As well the pot is definitely worth of a big bet on the turn should your hand indeed stand up.

But all the guess work aside, I think many people fail to underestimate the importance of implied odds when it matters. As such is the case with Mason's hand he is getting 19-1 on the flop provided the raiser does not raise and like Mason mentioned even if the button does raise Mason still has a good chance of being the best hand on the flop.

But if Mason makes the set on the turn he will most likely get paid off greater than the 22-1 odds he needs to make the hand worthy.

My only question is know that their are so many callers out in the field and knowing that most likely a diamond and/or straight draw is possible, would it be as wise to draw for a set if many other hands could redraw out on your set.

Thanks.
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