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Old 07-07-2005, 06:22 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Am I insane? (89s in huge pot)

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You seem to be missing the point completely.

There's nothing wrong with playing those hands for fun. But if you post that hand, expect a few hundred "Fold PF"s. We're not denying the fun factor of the game, but the posts here are not to share about how much fun the game of poker can be. Posts here are to help learn to analyze poker mistakes so that fewer of them are made. There's an obvious mistake being made (posting UTG+1) and it should be pointed out.

We're not looking down at the player who is posting UTG+1, but we're looking down at the value of that particular decision.

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I'm not missing the point at all. If the original poster had simply shared a hand history where he had posted UTG+1, and didn't mention the fact, and other posters let him know that he shouldn't do it, then I wouldn't have said anything.

However, he stated that he knew it was incorrect to post under the gun, but that he had to go somewhere in 20 minutes, and he didn't want to wait. This should have been enough, but for some reason, several posters still felt the need to chime in about how dumb it is to post in EP, and that having somewhere to go and not wanting to wait is not a good reason for doing it. Maybe for them it is not, but for him it is, and they don't need to criticize him for it after he already acknowledged that it wads not technically correct.

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I still don't understand why you're so adamant about defending OP. Here are his own words about his own decision after the first post:

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Post UTG+1 (obviously dumb, I don't really know what I was thinking)

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I don't really know why I posted, I think it was probably because I was having a pretty good night and was a little overanxious to start playing at this table.

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Here's what I said about it:

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Just have a snack and go to the movie. Do you really need to play poker to fill that time? Or else just wait *TWO* hands and post in the big blind. It's not as if this particular decision is going to kill you financially, but you do need to take your money seriously when you sit down to play, if you really want to play well. If you're just playing around... then you wouldn't be posting here.

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Here is the only other PF comment (excluding the back and forth about the appropriateness of it) that I found:

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First of, leaving in 20 minutes is not an excuse for posting from EP.

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Tell me why these comments are inappropriate.

Then tell me how this is sort of play is different from somebody saying "I knew I should have folded to that river check-raise, but I called because I wanted to see." It's the same attitude of making poor decisions because "I'm willing to pay for it" that prevents people from playing better poker. Maybe Hero's intention wasn't to play solid poker at the time. Are we supposed to assume that? I hope not, otherwise posting quality will sink far below its current level.

In the end, the poster is responsible for his own play. Suggestions of alternate possibilities are just suggestions. If he values playing those extra two hands more than waiting two minutes, then that's for him to decide. This board is about getting +EV (money, not entertainment EV) ideas out there, and whether anyone actually follows it is up to them.
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